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re: Robert E. Lee monument coming down NOW
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:33 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:33 pm to fightin tigers
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fightin tigers
I think this might be Mitch's TD handle.
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:37 pm to Fun Bunch
The people whom the statues idolize are part of the fabric of New Orleans. The statues themselves are part of the fabric of New Orleans, and have been for 100+ years. I'd say they are important to be prominently displayed where they were
I just drove by the former Beauregard statue. It's disgusting and looks like something you'd see in the lower 9 post Katrina after robbers stole the rest
I just drove by the former Beauregard statue. It's disgusting and looks like something you'd see in the lower 9 post Katrina after robbers stole the rest
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:38 pm to barry
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You can't argue that they should stay AND you don't care about them.
Depends what you mean by care.
I don't care at all about them in regards to who the statues represent. Even if I did, anyone that thinks that's a battle they can win in 2017 is a lunatic, but their mileage varies.
I care because these things are iconic landmarks of the city my parents loved. While it's not currently on the chopping block, think of the Jackson statue in Jackson Square. I don't care who the statue represents, though I do respect Jackson. I care that much of my childhood was spent feeding pigeons under it. I care that I have a photo of my Dad standing in front of it in the 40's, my and my sister standing in front of it in the same spot in the 70's, and one of my sons in front of it in the 2000's. It's PART of New Orleans.
Removing these things for made up reasons makes no sense, and fighting to keep them in place does not require someone to be some asshat hoping the south will rise again. It's a false narrative designed to keep people from opposing bullshite when they see it.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:39 pm to Hammertime
They coming for the Paul Prudhomme statue next.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:40 pm to barry
It's part of the landscape. No one really pays much to an oak tree on St Charles in its singularity. But dont go rogue and cut it down in the night and expect people not to get pissed.
The process is the major problem. Mitch took the grip and rip approach.
The process is the major problem. Mitch took the grip and rip approach.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:42 pm to GeauxTigerTM
"Depends what you mean by care.
I don't care at all about them in regards to who the statues represent. Even if I did, anyone that thinks that's a battle they can win in 2017 is a lunatic, but their mileage varies.
I care because these things are iconic landmarks of the city my parents loved. While it's not currently on the chopping block, think of the Jackson statue in Jackson Square. I don't care who the statue represents, though I do respect Jackson. I care that much of my childhood was spent feeding pigeons under it. I care that I have a photo of my Dad standing in front of it in the 40's, my and my sister standing in front of it in the same spot in the 70's, and one of my sons in front of it in the 2000's. It's PART of New Orleans.
Removing these things for made up reasons makes no sense, and fighting to keep them in place does not require someone to be some asshat hoping the south will rise again. It's a false narrative designed to keep people from opposing bullshite when they see it."
SPOT ON
Leave them where they are. I'm sure they will be replaced with some afterthought sh*t or just left void looking low f*cking rent. The mayor has stirred the shite and won't ever live it down.
I don't care at all about them in regards to who the statues represent. Even if I did, anyone that thinks that's a battle they can win in 2017 is a lunatic, but their mileage varies.
I care because these things are iconic landmarks of the city my parents loved. While it's not currently on the chopping block, think of the Jackson statue in Jackson Square. I don't care who the statue represents, though I do respect Jackson. I care that much of my childhood was spent feeding pigeons under it. I care that I have a photo of my Dad standing in front of it in the 40's, my and my sister standing in front of it in the same spot in the 70's, and one of my sons in front of it in the 2000's. It's PART of New Orleans.
Removing these things for made up reasons makes no sense, and fighting to keep them in place does not require someone to be some asshat hoping the south will rise again. It's a false narrative designed to keep people from opposing bullshite when they see it."
SPOT ON
Leave them where they are. I'm sure they will be replaced with some afterthought sh*t or just left void looking low f*cking rent. The mayor has stirred the shite and won't ever live it down.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:44 pm to JS87
quote:I can't wait! Tomorrow, there will be no more crime in New Orleans.
Robert E. Lee monument coming down TONIGHT
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:44 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Why hasn't Mitch gone after Jackson?
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:44 pm to redstick13
I have been totally against PGT and Jeff Davis coming down. REL to a lesser extent.
I just find it humorous what excuses people use to try defending leaving them up. Especially when they spout off shite that is factually wrong or misleading. Or hold Mitch responsible instead of everyone including tax payers and voters.
REL was a racist military leader that fought to keep slavery, at times allowed/encouraged his army to enslave free blacks in the north, made a few comments about slavery being wrong (technically he said they were worse for white people instead of black), then fought to make sure blacks were not given the right to vote AFTER the civil war.
Why am I against taking them down? Because I don't think art should be removed just because it is offensive. For the same reason I think Banksy-type art shouldn't be painted over by municipalities just because it puts them in a bad light. Statue supporters were doomed from tethers beginning because they tried to defend all of the statues the same, and as not being racist. Instead they should have asked if the Vietnam Memorial would be taken down because it valued Americans over the Vietnamese community.
I hate seeing artwork censored because someone doesn't like it. Maybe it makes someone mad, maybe that is a good thing.
I just find it humorous what excuses people use to try defending leaving them up. Especially when they spout off shite that is factually wrong or misleading. Or hold Mitch responsible instead of everyone including tax payers and voters.
REL was a racist military leader that fought to keep slavery, at times allowed/encouraged his army to enslave free blacks in the north, made a few comments about slavery being wrong (technically he said they were worse for white people instead of black), then fought to make sure blacks were not given the right to vote AFTER the civil war.
Why am I against taking them down? Because I don't think art should be removed just because it is offensive. For the same reason I think Banksy-type art shouldn't be painted over by municipalities just because it puts them in a bad light. Statue supporters were doomed from tethers beginning because they tried to defend all of the statues the same, and as not being racist. Instead they should have asked if the Vietnam Memorial would be taken down because it valued Americans over the Vietnamese community.
I hate seeing artwork censored because someone doesn't like it. Maybe it makes someone mad, maybe that is a good thing.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:47 pm to pjab
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The process is the major problem. Mitch took the grip and rip approach.
Agreed. The grandstanding is uncalled for as is being shady with all the plans. What people don't know they will make up. If Mitch came with a plan to replace rather than remove, or create a confederate park for these statues and others, it would have been better accepted.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:47 pm to fightin tigers
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Landrieu, who was 19 at the time, was arrested on July 17, 2012 after he hit three parked cars while driving around 1:45 a.m. near the intersection of Broadway and Zimpel streets.
Mitch should have hired his son to take the statues down.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:48 pm to fightin tigers
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Or hold Mitch responsible instead of everyone including tax payers and voters.
Mitch strong-armed it through the city council. Neither the taxpayers nor the voters ever had a say.
Mitch is responsible. PERIOD.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:49 pm to arseinclarse
Tell him there's a line of coke under it and it'll be off its pedestal in minutes.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:49 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Neither the taxpayers nor the voters ever had a say.
It's been 2 years. Has a single recall petition been started for Mitch or any council members?
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:50 pm to fightin tigers
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REL was a racist military leader
quote:pot meet kettle.
Especially when they spout off shite that is factually wrong or misleading.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:51 pm to fightin tigers
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recall petition
Nearly impossible in Louisiana.
See Yenni. Dude was making out with a boy in Lakeside and buying him panties. He's still here.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:51 pm to barry
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exactly, which im not sure why either side cares.
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You can't argue that they should stay AND you don't care about them.
For the last time...IT is NOT about the STATUES
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:51 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Mitch strong-armed it through the city council. Neither the taxpayers nor the voters ever had a say.
Mitch is responsible. PERIOD.
not mentioned even 1 time in either of his mayoral election campaigns
not that it really would've mattered
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:52 pm to CarRamrod
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pot meet kettle.
He fought to keep blacks from voting because he thought they weren't smart enough to handle the process.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:53 pm to arseinclarse
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Nearly impossible in Louisiana.
See Yenni. Dude was making out with a boy in Lakeside and buying him panties. He's still here
I agree, but no one even tried.
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