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re: Should being allowed to vote on property tax issues be contingent on property ownership?
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:53 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:53 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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If I can't decide how my property is taxed before I buy it, why would I buy it?
Additionally, if I were already a property owner, why would I not just vote to shift all tax burden to non property owners?
As you already know, in short, this is a retarded and ridiculous idea
Not only are you short and fat, you're obviously a renting leech. Gross.
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:53 pm to idlewatcher
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You sound like a xenophobic bigot. Everyone knows apartment dwellers know how real estate works. Sheesh.
Most property owners have no idea how real estate works.
Most people don't know how tax policy works
Most people don't know how bonds work.
Whats your point?
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:54 pm to upgrayedd
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Not only are you short and fat, you're obviously a renting leech. Gross.
I own two properties, one of which is a rental. I might buy your trailer too
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:54 pm to Epic Cajun
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I’m pretty sure it was Thomas Jefferson who said that only property owners should be able to vote because if you allow those who don’t own property to vote, they will vote to take property away from those own do own property.
He was a visionary.
This Thomas Jefferson?
"Now as to the representative house, which ought to be so constructed as to answer that character truly: I was for extending the rights of suffrage (or in other words the rights of a citizen) to all who had a permanent intention of living in the country. Take what circumstances you please as evidence for this, either the having resided a certain time, or having a family, or having property, any or all of them. Whoever intends to live in a country must wish the country well, and has a natural right of assisting in the preservation of it".
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:55 pm to SoonerK
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This Thomas Jefferson? "Now as to the representative house, which ought to be so constructed as to answer that character truly: I was for extending the rights of suffrage (or in other words the rights of a citizen) to all who had a permanent intention of living in the country. Take what circumstances you please as evidence for this, either the having resided a certain time, or having a family, or having property, any or all of them. Whoever intends to live in a country must wish the country well, and has a natural right of assisting in the preservation of it".
Whoops
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:56 pm to GentleJackJones
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This idea popped in my head after the “ Is it rude to ask someone if they’re a property owner??” thread.
Should proof of ownership of real property be a prerequisite prior to voting on various local and state property tax issues? Think about it, if you don’t own a home or acreage, why should you be allowed to vote on those matters - i.e., tax increase, where the tax funds are to be allocated, etc.
Your upvoters are stupid. EVERYONE who lives in that district is affected by property taxes, whether they rent or own the address listed on their voter registration.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:56 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I own two properties, one of which is a rental. I might buy your trailer too
Oh, sure.
And your logic on the original argument is fricking retarded
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:57 pm to wadewilson
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Absolutely. I would go even further and say that property owners votes should be weighted differently.
That's not far enough, IMO.
If you don't own property, your vote is worth 1/4 of a normal vote.
If you're paying a mortgage on your house, 1/2 a vote.
If you own your house outright, your vote counts as one.
If you own a second house, you get 2 votes.
If you own a company that owns multiple homes, you get a vote for each single family residence and 1 vote for every 2 single family residents in an apartment complex.
Etc.
If we're going retarded, let's go full retard.
I will buy in on that. I pay a mortgage, so I only get half a vote. Then that means the bank is paying half of the property tax, right?
Posted on 8/2/22 at 12:59 pm to GentleJackJones
Is the owner of a double-wide really doing better than a guy who rents in a downtown skyrise? Some people just hate commuting.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:00 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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And will undoubtedly rebuff social security and Medicare (if still available)
This isn't an argument on either side of the bigger debate, but as someone who pays thousands a year into these, I consider them true entitlements, notwithstanding how miserably managed it is.
Pure living assistance and the more classic welfare subsidies and refundable credits should be considered in a different basket. Not for voting rights purposes, but for general discussion purposes.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:00 pm to upgrayedd
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And your logic on the original argument is fricking retarded
Solid retort as shown by your overwhelming level of evidence and detail
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:03 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Solid retort as shown by your overwhelming level of evidence and detail
Damn, dude. Have another quarter pounder with cheese and calm down.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:03 pm to upgrayedd
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Damn, dude. Have another quarter pounder with cheese and calm down.
I had Chipotle for lunch already
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:04 pm to GentleJackJones
I think the real question is why do you have to pay taxes on YOUR property.
Shrink the size of government and don’t pay property tax at all.
Shrink the size of government and don’t pay property tax at all.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:04 pm to GentleJackJones
No. And it would be dumb as frick to make it that way w/how corporations are buying up all the property in the country.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:05 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I had Chipotle for lunch already
It's been 230 mins since you've eaten. That's why you're cranky, fatty
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:05 pm to upgrayedd
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It's been 230 mins since you've eaten. That's why you're cranky, fatty
It's been less than 23 minutes.
I only fast on Sundays
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:07 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
You're definitely slow the other six days.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:08 pm to GentleJackJones
Yes. The founding fathers had this part right.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:09 pm to GentleJackJones
frick Yes
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