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Posted on 1/19/26 at 3:38 am to
Posted by theballguy
Un-PC for either side
Member since Oct 2011
35049 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 3:38 am to
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there's no excuse for a human being to listen to it on purpose.


This actually applies to the rest of AI.
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
4898 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:14 am to
AI "music" is perfect. TOO perfect! humans make subtle mistakes, the beat may slow slightly. The voice will be slightly off key for a note or two. That is art and REAL. Even many modern "songs" use so many "cheats" that one can hear that there's no real talent there.
Posted by BeachTiger2018
Pinellas County FL
Member since Aug 2022
1333 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:18 am to
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For those curious, Damien Marley was some of those good fake songs I was listening to.


there is a group of fake songs that are called “Damien Marley”?
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6868 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 6:15 am to
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So AI is ripping off the Beatles for great chord progressions.

Got it.

Yup, you just play the top ten thousand songs of a genre into it, then take the samples you want back.

Then a human on the back end does some recording engineering to get rid of anything weird.

There are a number of tools out there for it.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31174 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 6:49 am to
I play guitar, write songs (lyrics and music), then I do a rough demo of those songs at home. I give those songs to a demo studio, where they will use session players and a good singer to re-record them and make them better.
I struggle with recording at home to get even a rough demo that is good enough that I feel comfortable with. It takes a lot of time.
I would like to learn how to use ai to speed that part up, but so far, it seems that it just does canned stuff.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6868 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 7:10 am to
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There is just something about lived human story, rhythm of sound and the authentic feeling it evokes.

When Sully Erna of Godsmack sings I stand alone, the I he sings about is himself.

When an AI prodices a vocal that "sings" it...
Wtf does that even mean.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31021 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 7:24 am to
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part of the allure of real music is that ideas for the melody and lyrics came from the mind of real people...


I've made many many songs on Suno.

What's funny is when you hear a lot of AI music, you realize most of the real music out there sounds just like well done AI.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6868 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 7:35 am to
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What's funny is when you hear a lot of AI music, you realize most of the real music out there sounds just like well done AI.

Agreed.
So much nowadays is wall of sound, 90 or more samples placed electronically across a track.

Its just so overengineered and auto tuned that its a mush.

I prefer to hear the unique harmonics of a singer, not a perfected clean vocal note.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155772 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:05 am to
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I just listened to some great music on YouTube that I thought was by a real artist. Turns out it was all AI...but it was better than almost anything I hear that is real. Is this AI all the devils work or should I just believe it's innocent and enjoy it? For those curious, Damien Marley was some of those good fake songs I was listening to.

There was a thread a few months ago with tons of AI songs. It’s weird to think that no person created it and it was made out of thin air from AI. But some of them were actually pretty catchy.

From 10/31/25


quote:

fr33manator

Of course you’re in here thrusting your fricking poetry and songs on people.
Posted by BamaSaint
Moh-beel
Member since Mar 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:09 am to
AI steals from real people's actual work. Whether it be music or art, it is stealing. The fact that some of you condone stealing in some cases and not others is insane .
There's a great Instagram page called "AI Cop". It exposes these frauds who use AI to steal art and call it their own.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 9:15 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155772 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:29 am to
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AI steals from real people's actual work. Whether it be music or art, it is stealing. The fact that some of you condone stealing in some cases and not others is insane . There's a great Instagram page called "AI Cop". It exposes these frauds who use AI to steal art and call it their own.

Is it stealing or just more of a compiler of information? But didn’t the Ed Sheeran court case prove that most music “steals” from other music it is influenced by, like chord progressions and such?

And I’m not arguing “for” AI, more just talking through it. I definitely prefer music by real people.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
23287 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:36 am to
Music is just the tip of the iceberg…


Posted by BamaSaint
Moh-beel
Member since Mar 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:37 am to
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And I’m not arguing “for” AI, more just talking through it. I definitely prefer music by real people

Fair point for music. I think the OP is an idiot for preferring it and the guy who wants to use it to sound better should practice more instead of relying AI, but yes I guess the courts settled that. But what about art?
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
7820 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:58 am to
Jeez just go to spotify and search "AI covers"

Some of y'all
Posted by yepitsme
Member since Sep 2017
93 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:04 am to
If the song is written from an idea that someone came up with, I have no problem with the song. That person has no way to put in a song format without using AI. So he uses it to show his talent that would have never been heard before. So much talent in songwriting is being held back because authors don't have a path to show their works to others. Now they do. I find it strange that you use Chicken's platform to express your views the way you see it, yet you condemn someone expressing their words in a song format. By the way, I love all the different opinions that we share on Tigerdropings. It comes from the heart. Let your words and their songs be heard no matter what. It's the American way...
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
7820 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:05 am to
Go away
Posted by BamaSaint
Moh-beel
Member since Mar 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:11 am to
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Let your words and their songs be heard no matter what.

Even if it's stealing others ideas? You sound like you aren't talented enough to play music. So write a poem, a short story, sell your songs to someone who can actually play, anything besides putting your lame lyrics to some lame computer generated music
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134067 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 12:06 pm to
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Even if it's stealing others ideas?


You realize that pretty much all of music history is pretty much "stealing others ideas" in your ken? (It's not. It's just being being influenced and inspired by, but you seem to think things grow in a vacuum.)

quote:

You sound like you aren't talented enough to play music.

You sound like you aren't talented enough to write songs

You ever sat in on a session? Where the writer is trying to explain to the musician how he wants his music brought to life.

It's the same language you use with AI. You can even upload your own chord progressions if you want.

Look, I'm not gonna say it has the full capability of a human player, but someone on a synthesizer? Definitely.

And if a human player hears a song he likes and wants to make it better and cover it, is that "stealing"? No. It what's been going on since we made the first music. Only thing that gets fishy is who is getting paid how.


This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 12:08 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
71420 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 1:07 pm to
Hate to say it, but there are some banger AI synthwave tracks out there. The genre kind of just lends itself to AI.
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