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Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:41 am to
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6564 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:41 am to
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I get the feeling she doesn't live far from the Southdowns area.


Nope. Squarely in the new city.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
45810 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:42 am to
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Next move is to disband the archaic Mayor-President position of EBR that’s a relic of the past.


They is zero chance for revitalization until this occurs.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14675 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:47 am to
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Nope. Squarely in the new city.


That's surprising to me. Seems like the "Old Baton Rouge" type of gal....
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63187 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:49 am to
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Didn't the LA Supreme Court already decide that the LA legislature ratifying the creation of the City of St. George is legal? Therefore the City of St. George exist.


MOP filed a request for rehearing of the case. I'm beginning to think she has something one one of the justices and will flip him/her. She just needs one. Besides, the state Supreme Court has yet to deny her request which is starting to make me worry.

The rehearing has nothing to do with boundaries.

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BATON ROUGE, La. (WAFB) - Attorneys representing those opposed to the incorporation of the city of St. George filed the necessary paperwork Thursday to request a rehearing of the matter before the Louisiana State Supreme Court.

The attorneys wrote in the filing that the state’s highest court should either reinstate the ruling of lower courts which blocks the incorporation effort or rehear the case.

“The import of the result of this decision cannot be overstated – it is a generational mistake. Once done, it cannot be undone, and Baton Rouge will never recover. And if the capital city is devastated by this decision, the entire state is impacted. A rehearing should be granted, and the decision of the Courts below be reinstated. Alternatively, the rehearing should be granted, and the matter should be set for briefing and oral argument,” the opponents wrote in a request filed Thursday, May 9.


From the (S)Advocate:

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As St. George leaders move forward with plans to create their own city, the leader of Baton Rouge's Metro Council is requesting a new hearing on the matter from the Louisiana Supreme Court, his attorney said Tuesday.

Baton Rouge Mayor Pro Tem Lamont Cole will ask the state's highest court for a new hearing on the incorporation of St. George to address key missing details from the previous ruling, according to his attorney, Mary Olive Pierson.

"I don't know why they're so anxious to get involved in this," Pierson said of St. George's organizers. "They don't understand that this case is not over yet."

The state Supreme Court ruled in St. George's favor by a 4-3 vote last week, overturning lower courts' decisions. The court determined St. George's plan was reasonable and could operate under a balanced budget.

But Pierson said the Supreme Court failed to address two major components of the incorporation: the city's official boundaries and date of incorporation. Both are up to the courts to decide, according to state law.

Pierson added these issues will likely need to be remanded to a lower court to resolve.

"It's just going to be a mess," Pierson said. "The Supreme Court does not have the ability to fix those two problems."

Andrew Murrell, a spokesman for St. George, said the city officially incorporated when they won their election in 2019 and that the boundaries match those outlined in their petition to incorporate from years ago.

"I would like somebody to ask why they continue going down this path," Murrell said. "What are they hoping to accomplish by dividing the citizens of their own parish?"

St. George, located in the southeast corner of the parish, won its election to incorporate in 2019 with 54% of the vote following years of campaigning and petitioning residents under the argument they were unhappy with Baton Rouge's services and wanted more local control of tax dollars.

Mayor-President Sharon Weston Broome and Cole sued organizers soon after, claiming the new city failed to comply with state law and would harm Baton Rouge's services and finances by taking away $48 million in tax revenue annually.

A district court sided with Baton Rouge leaders, saying the St. George plan was not "reasonable." So did an appeals court, which said the plan didn't meet all the requirements of state law — though that court removed Broome for the lawsuit for lack of standing, leaving only Cole left to challenge the incorporation effort before the Supreme Court.

Pierson said there were several other issues they took with the Supreme Court's ruling, including their determination that St. George could operate with a balanced budget, but that she would not provide further details at this time.

"Those people are going to be broke on day one," Pierson said.

Pierson said they plan to file their request for a rehearing before their deadline of May 10.

St. George leaders are moving ahead with the creation of their new city nonetheless. Murrell said at a press conference Monday they were waiting for Gov. Jeff Landry to appoint the first mayor and five-member council and the the reappointment of the St. George Transition District, which was created by the Legislature to serve as the city's initial taxing authority.

A spokesperson for Landry said Tuesday they did not have an answer as to when those leaders will be appointed.

Organizers also said they plan to create a new school district for the city — which was the original impetus behind the St. George movement — despite concerns from some parents about whether their children will be forced to change schools. Murrell told those parents the school district was years away from actualization.

The NAACP’s Baton Rouge chapter released a statement shortly after the press conference saying St. George’s plan “poses significant risks to our education system, threatens the continuity of critical programs, and challenges community representation.”

“While we understand the desire for local autonomy, we urge careful consideration of the potential disruptions and increased financial burden on our schools and students,” the NAACP wrote.

Murrell also told the crowd Monday that they were considering action against Baton Rouge to collect tax revenue collected by the city-parish since 2019 while St. George was in legal limbo.

Pierson said Tuesday that if that's the case, St. George should pay back for the services provided by Baton Rouge during that time.

"I guarantee our number is bigger than theirs," Pierson said. "We've been cutting the grass and fixing the streets for the last four years, and they're not going to pay for it?"



This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 11:03 am
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9934 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:55 am to
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Next move is to disband the archaic Mayor-President position of EBR that’s a relic of the past.


I post this everytime it comes up.

The NAACP, Central, Zachary, and now St. George are all for abolishing the consolidated government. This should be agenda #1.

The NAACP wants there to be a BR City council again (instead of metro council) because they will have more input into the city of BR. Central, Zachary, and St. George don’t want the metro council members in BR telling them what to do.

It’s a win-win for everyone. The only people not allowing it forward is the Metro Council since they would lose power.
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
3252 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:12 am to
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ALL the upper class conservatives I’ve talked to hate the idea of St. George.

I'm sure they can get good money for their home, and they can move back to the city they love. And save quite a bit of money as I'm sure the homes are cheaper.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:25 am to
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Pierson said Tuesday that if that's the case, St. George should pay back for the services provided by Baton Rouge during that time.

"I guarantee our number is bigger than theirs," Pierson said. "We've been cutting the grass and fixing the streets for the last four years, and they're not going to pay for it?"



Am I wrong in thinking this shouldn't be terribly hard to reconcile? Tally up all tax receipts originating in St. George and tally up all the services provided to St. George and see what's what.

If St. George is paying more in than they are getting back, why would they owe money?

Perhaps another way to look at it is if St. George owes them money, why do they care if they are losing the tax dollars?
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13012 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:27 am to
Now subtract BRPD and BRFD money since St George has been paying for that shite and not receiving it.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:28 am to
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Now subtract BRPD and BRFD money since St George has been paying for that shite and not receiving it.


Well there you go. That's just it; how can this person make that statement without considering all the ways St. George pays in but doesn't get commensurate services in return?
Posted by Styxion
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2012
1736 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:28 am to
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We've been cutting the grass and fixing the streets for the last four years, and they're not going to pay for it?"


That's always their argument. They act like the people of St. George aren't paying for any of the services they receive. They are still paying taxes to the parish for these services.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42290 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:42 am to
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That's always their argument. They act like the people of St. George aren't paying for any of the services they receive. They are still paying taxes to the parish for these services.


We have been paying through the nose.
The parish has neglected to clean up trash, stripe streets, repair and maintain streets, clean ditches and canals.

We pay 45 million or so dollars in sales tax to the parish. We pay business taxes and fees to the parish. Any half arse audit indicates we font get neatly the services we pay for.
Posted by bigpoppadiesel35
Member since Oct 2010
239 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:43 am to
The optics of a white governor appointing a white mayor, white police chief and 5 white aldermen are horrible & undergird the claims St. George is "all white." And white judge Hunter Greene performed the sweating-in.

The demographics within the boundaries are not all white, but man this looks terribly racist.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103422 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:46 am to
In this state, there aren’t many black Republicans.

Was he supposed to appoint that fat tub of shite, Gravy, just for optics?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:48 am to
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Unless they want to go to jail."


Jailing your political opponents over horseshite seems to be status quo now.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:48 am to
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looks terribly racist.


frick off.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42290 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:54 am to
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The optics of a white governor appointing a white mayor, white police chief and 5 white aldermen are horrible & undergird the claims St. George is "all white." And white judge Hunter Greene performed the sweating-in. The demographics within the boundaries are not all white, but man this looks terribly racist.


It was reported that the folks appointed were all heavily involved in pushing SG forward.

Was that not the best way to do this?
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
87838 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:57 am to
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The optics of a white governor appointing a white mayor, white police chief and 5 white aldermen are horrible



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:57 am to
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The optics of a white governor appointing a white mayor, white police chief and 5 white aldermen are horrible


You people are insufferable.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27328 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:59 am to
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The optics of a white governor appointing a white mayor, white police chief and 5 white aldermen are horrible & undergird the claims St. George is "all white." And white judge Hunter Greene performed the sweating-in.

The demographics within the boundaries are not all white, but man this looks terribly racist.


You should have been around for Central. They would have had to take you to the ER.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3808 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 12:00 pm to
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They better not collect any public money,

At least they are saying it out loud. They are going to miss their cash cow that they can milk dry just to squander.


SIAP, but:

Will Baton Rouge be on the hook retroactively for millions of $ that SHOULD have gone to St George ?
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