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re: Teachers have it hard you guys
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:07 am to LoveThatMoney
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:07 am to LoveThatMoney
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Does anyone know any education majors that were actually smart? The bulk of the education majors I knew of were absolutely moronic sorority girls who were floating through college hoping to land a guy whose parents had money.
My wife is a teacher, and she's pretty smart.
But your point stands. They treat her like some kind of novelty.
They had some kind of quiz earlier this week in their faculty meeting that tested the faculty on the skill-based questions on a new standardized test. They all joked and poked at my wife because "Oh she surely got all the answers right! She always does!"
My wife was flabbergasted at how many of them got questions wrong. Yes, she got them all right. The test was for fifth graders. Anyone with a college degree should be able to get a 100% on a test created for 5th graders.
They also use her as what she calls the "double checker." New computer program? New lesson? Some kind of issue? They come to her. Ask her what she thinks and then take it as gold.
My wife though is too nice to see it. She thinks she's given off the wrong impression. I try to tell her that she's one of the only ones in the building with a lick of sense (and a master's degree) but she doesn't accept it.
To the OP - Yes, teachers do have it a bit rough when it comes to keeping up with appearances. It's bullshite. A teacher goes out in bum clothes without makeup? Good chance a kid snaps a pic of her if he sees her. Puts it on social media. School starts making fun of her. Then the principal finds out, and she calls the teacher into her office. Asks her why she would go out wearing leggings, a t-shirt with paint on it, and pretty much bed-head. Teacher responds she was doing housework and needed a few things from the store on a Saturday. Principal asks she consider not going out like that to a public place where parents and kids could see her.
That's not apocryphal. That happened to a girl at my school back when I was a teacher years ago.
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:08 am to MSTiger33
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We have all heard it — and to be honest, we are sick of it. Sure, we get summers “off.” I should not need to mention that during that time we attend workshops, plan lessons and rewrite curriculum we rework to meet changing standards, but, apparently, I do. Here are some things people may not realize about the lives of teachers.
They have to work a few days during the 4 months where school isn't in session?
Ugh, that must be miserable.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:09 am to CunningLinguist
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I taught as a TA during grad school. I hated it. I could not imagine teaching kids let alone college students like I did. I have multiple family members who are teachers. They all get at least six weeks of the summer off. Some worked side jobs for more cash even. I am not on the bash teacher train but some of these teachers complaining are either 1) being overly over dramatic or2) horrible with time management.
In fairness, the article is particularly bad. Every point is easily trumped by someone in a professional field. I have good quality of life for an attorney, but it's not like I can go out in public looking like a bum either. I run into judges and clients and potential clients all the time. It's just a really narrow view of the world to think that applies exclusively, or at a heightened level to teachers.
I know a few good teachers and some awful ones. Unfortunately, they all complain. Some of the complaints are legit (dumb school bureaucracy) and we could probably agree on those. However, we all have those issues at work.
In the end, if you become a teacher, you're going into a public service field. Consider it similar to a charity. You're electing to make less to do something you think is fulfilling. Sure, you go home and work. Guess what, most people I know work later at work, and then still go home and work. And yes, they make more money than teachers, but they went to school for 6-8 years and did better in more difficult settings. Plus, they probably have more loan debt than you.
I like teachers, I really like good teachers. But this article is bordering on trolling, it's so awful.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:10 am to Tigerfan56
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They have to work a few days during the 4 months where school isn't in session?
Ugh, that must be miserable.
What's funny to me is you don't hear these same kind of comments towards college professors.
Professors at my university work from August 16-December 12th. Winter break runs from December 13 to January 14th. Spring semester lasts until May 9th. Most of them do not have to teach a summer class.
They're working way less than grade school teachers.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:11 am to Tigerfan56
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4 months where school isn't in session
Could you name a few of those month?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:11 am to StringedInstruments
College professors don't complain because they're smart enough to recognize that being a professor is fricking awesome
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:15 am to Tigerfan56
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4 months
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where school isn't in session?
Teachers don't get paid for time they're "off" from school during the summer and winter. They get a check that has been split to allow them to receive a check, but they aren't being paid for the time off.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:16 am to StringedInstruments
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Professors at my university work from August 16-December 12th. Winter break runs from December 13 to January 14th. Spring semester lasts until May 9th. Most of them do not have to teach a summer class.
They're working way less than grade school teachers.
Um, no. Most professors, especially in their early and mid-career, never really have off, because whenever you are on "vacation" you are actually doing research.
Grade school teachers work 9-5, and then their work is done.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:17 am to StringedInstruments
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What's funny to me is you don't hear these same kind of comments towards college professors. Professors at my university work from August 16-December 12th. Winter break runs from December 13 to January 14th. Spring semester lasts until May 9th. Most of them do not have to teach a summer class. They're working way less than grade school teachers.
People do complain about professors.
However, teaching classes is just a part of what they are expected to do.
Science field is expected to bring in grant money and do research year round.
Liberal Arts is usually expected to produce a publishable work, or give and attend lectures year round.
They are required to bring outside revenue to the university through outside means.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:17 am to Tuscaloosa
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Teachers don't get paid for time they're "off" from school during the summer and winter. They get a check that has been split to allow them to receive a check, but they aren't being paid for the time off.
It really doesn't matter. It's known that you're working for 9 months of wages when you sign up. How it is spread doesn't matter, except that you can work another job during a part of that period.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:18 am to tylercsbn9
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quote: We cannot go to Walmart in shorts, no make-up, and a pony-tail because we might run into a student and parent and wind up having a parent-teacher conference in the cereal aisle. Or a student might see a bottle of wine in our cart and when Monday comes, we hear students saying making jokes, like Ms. So and So is a wino, or Ms. So and So, you didn’t listen to the DARE lady.
This is laughable. My wife is a teacher and she has run into her kids like once in 6 years
My wife taught for 5 years and ran into current and former students all the time. Did your wife teach at your neighborhood school or close to it? That makes a difference.
In any event, the lady who wrote that is a little over the top. This was never a concern that my wife raised. Seriously, WTF is a parent going to do if she sees my wife in lounge pants with no makeup at Walgreens? Your kid still has to pass
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 11:20 am
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:29 am to ChineseBandit58
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Could you name a few of those month?
For my wife
3 weeks in June
4 weeks in July
3 weeks in August
2 weeks in December
1 week in March
Random stuff for MLK, thanksgiving, etc.
Gets you about 3.5 months.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:31 am to schlow mo
I understand it is a tough job and I believe they are underpaid, but they weren't forced into teaching. IT WAS THEIR DECISION. If they hate it so much, make a career move.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:32 am to Teddy Ruxpin
Im student teaching currently, and this kind of teacher is the teacher that everyone hates because they will point out every flaw that goes on, where as 98% of the other people in the profession dont care.
Like others said, you attend maybe 2 workshops a summer, big whoop.
I will be spending my summers working 1 or 2 jobs plus coaching to make an extra 7-10k a year.
Like others said, you attend maybe 2 workshops a summer, big whoop.
I will be spending my summers working 1 or 2 jobs plus coaching to make an extra 7-10k a year.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:33 am to Bayou Sam
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Um, no. Most professors, especially in their early and mid-career, never really have off, because whenever you are on "vacation" you are actually doing research.
Same kind of claims grade school teachers make.
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Grade school teachers work 9-5, and then their work is done.
So inaccurate I have to wonder if you were home schooled.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:35 am to magildachunks
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People do complain about professors.
However, teaching classes is just a part of what they are expected to do.
Science field is expected to bring in grant money and do research year round.
Liberal Arts is usually expected to produce a publishable work, or give and attend lectures year round.
They are required to bring outside revenue to the university through outside means.
And grade school teachers are expected to sponsor clubs, attend events, be involved, coach sports, chaperone after school trips, supervise dances.
It's about the same thing except don't go out of their way to complain about professors at least evidenced on this site. There's a biweekly thread of people bashing grade school teachers.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:35 am to StringedInstruments
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Same kind of claims grade school teachers make.
Yes, grade school teachers are "researchers".
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:36 am to schlow mo
there is no amount of money that you could pay me to put up with the BS delivered by a bunch of 12-18 y/o public school brats...or private school punks either.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:39 am to LoveThatMoney
quote:I wholehearted agree with this statement. You won't believe the number of elementary education majors who openly say "I'm only going to teach for 3-5 months. Then Brad will make enough money where I won't have to work anymore."
If you don't think teachers have a difficult job, then you simply aren't facing reality.
On the other hand, if we stopped treating teachers as glorified babysitters, perhaps we'd get better educators who stop fricking our children. The teaching profession is now a complete joke in the U.S.
Does anyone know any education majors that were actually smart? The bulk of the education majors I knew of were absolutely moronic sorority girls who were floating through college hoping to land a guy whose parents had money.
Currently, you rarely find a Education major who actually started out in that field. Most of them started out in Engineering or Business. Then realized they couldn't cut it.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:40 am to StringedInstruments
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t's about the same thing
No. It's really not.
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