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re: Violent behavior displayed by Pretti a week before he was shot
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:10 pm to GRTiger
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:10 pm to GRTiger
Everything will be understandably scrutinized- but the timing between the gun call and the shoot arguably doesn’t matter (and could conceivably help) if the argument is that the shots followed the reach.
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:11 pm to Pettifogger
I'm not trying to create a narrative. I really don't ever do that. I'm just saying what seems off based on my live observation of what is available.
If 5 seconds helps thr agents then I bet I can convince a few that it is wrong because they don't want it to help.
If 5 seconds helps thr agents then I bet I can convince a few that it is wrong because they don't want it to help.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:12 pm to Klark Kent
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I appreciate the sleight of hand: you say no one can infer harmful intent, then immediately assert he had none.
Brother. This makes zero sense.
One can assert he did not have fatal intent because he never did anything that falls remotely under that purview.
You are asserting he had fatal intent despite this fact, which makes you the one inferring and filling in emotional blanks to satisfy a narrative.
This is simple stuff.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:12 pm to GRTiger
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I'm not trying to create a narrative
Didn't you say he quit his job?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:12 pm to GRTiger
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No man you or I know would be in the position this guy put himself in
no, damn near every dude i know would help protect a woman who was in harm's way... maybe we were raised correctly, i dunno... or maybe you are just a baby back bitch, i dunno...
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I only seem like a troll to idiots
whatever you gotta tell yourself to sleep at night, you do you, bro... at any rate, have a great rest of your week
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:13 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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This is simple stuff.
Not for klark and his biased colored lenses
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:13 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Didn't you say he quit his job?
Nope. Back to your hole bitch
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:15 pm to Pettifogger
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Pretti makes a move toward his waistband,
then you have a totally different video than every other video that his out there right now.... if the body cams show that he did, then i will be the first one to eat crow and say we were wrong, he did make an aggressive movement that could have put the lives of the LEOs in danger, but so far, we have not seen or heard any report of that happening...
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Which if true, may well present a very viable defense and/or preclude charges
yeah... if...
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:17 pm to whatiknowsofar
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deflect deny and justify
Swing and a miss x3. You’re awful at this.
All I’ve done the last two days is just point out your general stupidity when trying to argue.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:17 pm to GRTiger
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Nope. Back to your hole bitch
His arguments are so shite that he has to create a shitty argument for others.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:19 pm to chRxis
What?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:20 pm to Pettifogger
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What?
what's hard for you to understand out of what i just said?
and i'm not trying to antagonize you or anything, and i promise i'm not asking with any pretense or snark, i'm legitimately asking so i can unerstand what point i would need to explain on follow up...
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:21 pm to GRTiger
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Nope
Oh ok good. So you were just wrong about what ice can and cant do. Got it
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:21 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Brother, what makes “zero sense” is your definition of intent. You’re pretending intent only exists if someone commits the final act. By that logic, no one ever has criminal intent until after the crime is completed. That’s not how reality works, and it’s not how law works.
And I can't help but notice what you're still doing: you insist no one can know his intent, while confidently declaring you know his intent. You are making the very inference you claim is impossible, you just like the conclusion.
“This is simple stuff.” Yes, and all day you’ve been trying to isolate Preeti’s death in a vacuum to make your narrative work. It doesn’t.
And I can't help but notice what you're still doing: you insist no one can know his intent, while confidently declaring you know his intent. You are making the very inference you claim is impossible, you just like the conclusion.
“This is simple stuff.” Yes, and all day you’ve been trying to isolate Preeti’s death in a vacuum to make your narrative work. It doesn’t.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:22 pm to pankReb
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Swing and a miss x3. You’re awful at this.
All I’ve done the last two days is just point out your general stupidity when trying to argue.
Sure jan
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:25 pm to chRxis
That there isn’t widespread discussion about the video and Pretti’s hands around his waistline at the time of the shoot.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:27 pm to ell_13
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I’d like to read the report if you can link it. I know it doesn’t include everything but I’d be shocked if a misfire happened and they didn’t mention it. I only went on reporting I had seen from the NYPost. I thought that was the most recent information.
They didn’t really release a report to the public or the final report. They sent a report or outline of investigation to date to Congress which made its way to a few news organizations (not sure if leaked or normal process). It doesn’t state anywhere in report that the gun discharged, but it also doesn’t explicitly state in the report that the gun didn’t discharge. It just mentions the guns of the 2 officers that discharged. You would think it would mention it if it did discharge, but until a report like this explicitly states it did not discharge it is something that still could be under investigation and not considered a fact one way or the other yet. It’s a fairly early report sent to Congress.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/two-federal-agents-fired-their-weapons-during-alex-pretti-shooting-report-congress-says/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=901725060
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CBP told CBS News in a statement: "These notifications reflect standard Customs and Border Protection protocol and are issued in accordance with existing procedures. They provide an initial outline of an event that took place and do not convey any definitive conclusion or investigative findings. They are factual reports – not analytical judgments – and are provided to inform Congress and to promote transparency."
CBS just copied and pasted what they say is the full report to its website. I have not seen any link to the actual official report.
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The full report is below:
The following statement pertains to an in-custody death that occurred on Saturday, January 24, 2026, in Minneapolis, MN. This information is based on a preliminary review by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) Investigative Operations Directorate (IOD) and may be updated and clarified as additional details become available. It is being provided to Committee staff concurrently with CBP senior leadership to ensure timely reporting.
CBP OPR IOD established the following information and timeline based on a preliminary review of body worn camera footage and CBP documentation.
On January 24, 2026, United States Border Patrol (USBP) Border Patrol Agents (BPAs) and Customs and Border Protection Officers (CBPOs) supporting Operation Metro Surge were conducting enforcement actions near the intersection of Nicollet Ave. and 26th St. in Minneapolis, MN. Several civilians were in the area yelling and blowing whistles. BPAs and CBPOs made several verbal requests for the civilians to stay on the sidewalks and out of the roadway.
At approximately 9:00 a.m., a CBPO was confronted by two female civilians blowing whistles. The CBPO ordered the female civilians to move out of the roadway, and the female civilians did not move. The CBPO pushed them both away and one of the females ran to a male, later identified as 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a US citizen. The CBPO attempted to move the woman and Pretti out of the roadway. The woman and Pretti did not move. The CBPO deployed his oleoresin capsicum (OC) spray towards both Pretti and the woman.
CBP personnel attempted to take Pretti into custody. Pretti resisted CBP personnel's efforts and a struggle ensued. During the struggle, a BPA yelled, "He's got a gun!" multiple times. Approximately five seconds later, a BPA discharged his CBP-issued Glock 19 and a CBPO also discharged his CBP-issued Glock 47 at Pretti. After the shooting, a BPA advised he had possession of Pretti's firearm. The BPA subsequently cleared and secured Pretti's firearm in his vehicle.
At approximately 9:02 a.m., CBP personnel cut Pretti's clothing and provided medical aid to him by placing chest seals on his wounds. At approximately 9:05 a.m., Minneapolis Fire Department Emergency Medical Services (MFD EMS) emergency medical technicians (EMTs) arrived and assumed primary medical care for Pretti.
At approximately 9:14 a.m., MFD EMTs placed Pretti in an MFD EMS ambulance and he was subsequently transported to Hennepin County Medical Center (HCMC). At approximately 9:32 a.m., HCMC medical personnel pronounced Pretti deceased.
CBP OPR IOD was advised that an autopsy would be conducted by medical personnel from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office. CBP OPR IOD will request the official findings upon completion.
Homeland Security Investigations is investigating the incident and CBP OPR IOD is reviewing it. The Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General was notified.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:33 pm to Pettifogger
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Pretti’s hands around his waistline at the time of the shoot
his hands were in front of him the entire time... in fact, it looked like once he got the pepper spray, he was hanging on to the woman he jumped in front of, obviously disoriented and i'm thinking he thought he had one of the agents in his grasp... his back is to the agents, and remains that way the entire time, after the pepper spray...
the gun was in the small of his back, just as it was on the video that came out today of where he was in the wrong..
again, not sure what video you've seen that shows Pretti reaching for his firearm, especially with him disoriented and having multiple agents already on top of him by the time they subsequently discover the firearm and disarm him....
but if you have video that shows something different, i'd be interested in seeing it... i'm praying we get the body cam video so we can further understand exacty what was said, what happened in the few moments before the shots are fired, etc...and if they do show he reached for his weapon, i'd change my stance, clearly
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:34 pm to el Gaucho
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Only in a fascist dictatorship do people have to worry about getting shot every time they attack the police
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:36 pm to imjustafatkid
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