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Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by wasteland
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:26 pm to
You need to stop expecting absolute knowledge and wisdom from humans on tv. It takes time to study a new disease and develop treatments and vaccines. So things change as new studies are done
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45129 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:28 pm to
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So things change as new studies are done


But it's rather odd those changes only seem to go in one direction.

Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:30 pm to
So at what numbers? Case numbers, deaths, hospitalizations, would it be ok to lift the masks mandates and restrictions?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:35 pm to
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Then what?



4 More weeks of masks, and then masks until everyone is vaccinated and if you don't wear the I have been vaccinated button you will face the same actions as people today who are not wearing a mask.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:36 pm to
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So you don't believe science?



Downvoters apparently think surgeons don't need to wear masks. It's possible to think these mandates are stupid without going full retard, you know.


It would be you not believing science. The masks worn by surgeons are not N-95 masks let alone bandannas and other BS>

Posted by wasteland
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:47 pm to
I have no answers for that. I hate the fricking things and can’t wait to stop wearing one. I’m just pointing out that shite changes
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 5:58 pm to
The thing is, I don’t think I’ve heard one person say they do have the answers for that. Are the “phases” even based off of numbers or are they just arbitrarily decided?
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by Ricardo
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 6:04 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 3:00 pm
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 6:06 pm to
I appreciate the info. However those just talk about downward trajectories. I have yet to see hard numbers discussed. Also what classifies as a downward trajectory? One less? 50 percent less? Also what does it mean “downward trajectory within a 14 day period”? Lets say there are less cases than there were 14 days ago, but more than there were 4 days ago? Is that a downward trajectory?
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37010 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 8:15 pm to
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Imma sneeze in my hand out of my maskless mouth and touch food boxes that I have no intention of buying when I go to HEB later


You shouldn't be sneezing in your hand.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37010 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 8:19 pm to
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there is a large difference between the neck buff I wear and a clinical / surgery level mask.


There is, but the bigger difference is the sterile environment that the doctors generally wear the medical masks.

The people wearing the blue surgical masks aren't doing much more, if anything, that the people wearing a shirt.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37010 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 8:20 pm to
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You need to stop expecting absolute knowledge and wisdom from humans on tv.


But trust the experts.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29079 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:00 pm to
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You think authoritarians care about masks? How about shooting people with rubber bullets, teargassing them, and snatching them off the street without explanation? I guess that's how free people should expect to be treated?
you really want to go there? I don’t think you do
fricking right I want to go there. This is America.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
42808 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:05 pm to
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we needed to shut everything down to flatten the curve so hospitals weren't overwhelmed. Flattening the curve meant extending the covid "season". But we flattened the curve.


Most places didn't fkatten the curve before reopening. I know we didn't in Texas and that is why we are dealing with very high hospitalizations. So high we have had to call in military medical staff.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51234 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:08 pm to
Either that guy was tough or high as frick or those batons are made of foam rubber
This post was edited on 7/19/20 at 11:09 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83848 posts
Posted on 7/19/20 at 11:37 pm to
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But yea, the do prevent blobs of snot and spit from spraying as far from your face when you sneeze or cough.


I ain’t sneezing into my mask. That’s gross.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10713 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 12:10 am to
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Downvoters apparently think surgeons don't need to wear masks.
Surgeons wear properly fitted and sterile masks. Most people reuse the same dirty mask and don’t wear it correctly. Big difference, pal.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
42808 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 12:24 am to
In my experience, 99% of people wear the masks correctly. I rarely see someone who doesn't. Dirty masks endager the wearer more than others. The mask still limits aerosol coming from the wearer.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32107 posts
Posted on 7/20/20 at 1:02 am to
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Surgeons wear properly fitted and sterile masks.


That is not true. The masks are not sterile. They come out of a big box akin to a box of tissues only it's full of masks. They are often located in the scrub room just before entering an OR, which is generally sterile.

As someone who has been around healthcare all my life and now work in, I respectfully call you incorrect. If I am standing near a surgery table over an open abdomen or what have you and I cough or sneeze, the mask prevents contaminating droplets from reaching my sterile field. It stops germs. And yes, sneezes or coughs can catch people unaware with no way to stifle it. This is the same reason that masks are effective in preventing the spread of any respiratory disease(including covid-19) from a person wearing a mask who coughs, sneezes, screams etc. to a person in the vicinity. Is it 100% effective? No. But it’s pretty damn good at stopping it.

I will agree, when it's not worn correctly, it may as well not even be worn. It should cover your the end of your nose, go up to around the bridge of it and go down underneath your chin.


I'm not getting into a big debate about this with anyone but I felt it necessary to share that.



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