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re: What would you do if the grid went down.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:10 pm to lsu777
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:10 pm to lsu777
quote:
what is taking the whole grid down even across the whole US?
A massive solar storm.
We are due for one. Last huge one was in the mid 1800's. We barely missed the impact of one about 8 years ago.
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:13 pm to lsu777
quote:Answer: Doesn't matter. The OP said the grid is down, so the grid is down.
well than answer me....what is taking the whole grid down even across the whole US?
Just like I'm going to reply on what I'd do when I win the lottery even though the odds are 1 in 300 million, we can play this game just like the lottery one.
quote:Answer: The OP saying so.
so wtf outside of a "last ship" style pandemic would do it?
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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A massive solar storm.
We are due for one. Last huge one was in the mid 1800's. We barely missed the impact of one about 8 years ago.
carrington events, even the ones the size of the 1859 event do not take out whole country's grids the size of the US. They are very localized, see the one that hit in 1989 in Quebec.
plus we usually have days of advance notice
plus we have started preparing for things like that
solar storms dont take out cars, small electronics etc
not to mention the couple time we have been hit with them, like in 1989, we had the grid back up in a matter of hours.
i will admit there are records of 2 solar storms in history that were about 20 times bigger than the 1859 that could possibly knock out the power across prolly 3/4 of the US, but it wouldnt knock out cars, generators etc.
it would be like a massive hurricane but without all the other damage. some ervices like communications, would be restored quickly, porlly 36-48 hours. electricity prolly would take 8 weeks though for everywhere, maybe longer.
but twice in the known history of civilization???
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:18 pm to shel311
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Answer: Doesn't matter. The OP said the grid is down, so the grid is down.
fine...cars still work, same with generators....so people stay put and ride it out or drive to someplace like mexico or canada.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:20 pm to Dominate308
I would bug out to my hunting land. It’s just about a quarter square with one entrance and a live creek flowing through it. Have 1000+ gallons of water storage already on site and an established rabbitry. Bring my survival rations and enough firepower to supply a good sized platoon and let the cards fall where they may.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 1:51 pm to bayoudude
My family has a 300 acre tree farm about 2 hrs from my house on the border of Texas. Very rural and surrounded by distant cousins. Large barndo and 3 atv's. 2 decent sized ponds and 4 natural gas wells. It is very easy to pass up if you dont know where you're going. My wife is a nurse and we have a couple of ex military in the family that would be very useful. May not make it forever, but it would be a good place to setup and try to survive.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 2:03 pm to bayoudude
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rabbitry.
Now there's a new word to me.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 2:32 pm to shel311
quote:But it matters a lot what took down the grid, because that is what would guide every action after that. Your actions and the actions of others.quote:Answer: Doesn't matter. The OP said the grid is down, so the grid is down.
well than answer me....what is taking the whole grid down even across the whole US?
Just like I'm going to reply on what I'd do when I win the lottery even though the odds are 1 in 300 million, we can play this game just like the lottery one.
As opposed to winning the lottery, when the grid goes down priority #1 is to get back to the prior state of things. Back to normal life.
OP posed 2 questions: "what would you do?", and "how long could you survive without power?"
Depending on what happened, I would either try to help fix the problem, prepare for war, or try to build a new normal life without power for my family. And I would have to know the answer to that to answer the second question.
Or at least OP needs to clarify what is "an extended period of time". Is it a month, a year, or a decade? Everyone is answering with the assumption that gangs and violence will be the norm, but I think it would be the unknown that would make it that bad. If we know what happened, that would change everyone's mindset from straight-up survival to rebuilding and restoring. Even if the event means it will take a decade to rebuild, I think that would at least give most of us a goal to work together toward instead of killing each other and fighting over resources.
Saying "the grid is down" tells us nothing.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 2:38 pm to Korkstand
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prepare for war,
Well, as soon as the food/etc in the cities are used up, guess where they are spreading? Think they are going to ask nicely?
Posted on 8/26/22 at 2:47 pm to Spaceman Spiff
quote:Probably. If it was you, would you go out to offer help in exchange for resources, or would you go out looking to take what you want?
Well, as soon as the food/etc in the cities are used up, guess where they are spreading? Think they are going to ask nicely?
But like I was getting at, it depends on what happened. Is shite just broken but all the infrastructure is still in place, or have we gone back in time and have to start from scratch? Flesh out the scenario so we know whether to work together to fix things, or kill or be killed.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 3:04 pm to Korkstand
try to get to the hamptons and reke havoc & revenge!
Posted on 8/26/22 at 3:15 pm to Korkstand
quote:This.
shite just broken but all the infrastructure is still in place
Posted on 8/26/22 at 3:58 pm to Korkstand
quote:It matters to the powers that be who will try to get it back on. For me and my family and the 100s of millions like me, it really doesn't matter what took the grid down nor does it matter to me personally or those 100s of millions how we're getting back. That is not priority #1 for us, priority #1 is surviving and protecting your family.
But it matters a lot what took down the grid, because that is what would guide every action after that. Your actions and the actions of others.
As opposed to winning the lottery, when the grid goes down priority #1 is to get back to the prior state of things. Back to normal life.
quote:I agree that roving gangs wouldn't be an issue for the majority of folks. It's also why I think banding together with your neighborhood and the longer it goes, the more neighborhoods you're working to build with as a larger community is the route to go for most people who don't have survivalist skills and a family camp out in the woods that may work for them. But nonetheless, the Walking Dead style gangs of bad people wouldn't be anywhere near what people think. Many in this thread, that's one of if not the 1st thing they mention when in reality, for probably 99% of people it'll be way down on the list of things they should be concerned with.
Everyone is answering with the assumption that gangs and violence will be the norm, but I think it would be the unknown that would make it that bad.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 10:36 pm to lsu777
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i will say this...most of you better hope it doesnt happen because most of yall are dumb enough to beleive an emp would take out cars, fry the grid completely and destroy small electronics. meaning you mother frickers are dumb as shite, way too dumb to be able to survive if shite hit the fan like that.
And you’re dumb enough to think you could hop in the truck and drive wherever you want when 20% of the vehicles on the road are broken down and everyone else hops in their vehicle causing the road to be even more gridlocked. You are a complete dumbass to go along with being a party pooping loser.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:52 pm to SuperOcean
Id run carbon monoxide into my home and hope I’m right about heaven.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 12:15 am to shel311
quote:Eh I still disagree. Even if you are not able to help restore the grid, I think knowing what's going on and having a rough timeline of when it will come back online should change your strategy.
It matters to the powers that be who will try to get it back on. For me and my family and the 100s of millions like me, it really doesn't matter what took the grid down nor does it matter to me personally or those 100s of millions how we're getting back. That is not priority #1 for us, priority #1 is surviving and protecting your family.
For example, if we're talking about a month, I would probably hunker down at home, ration, and do some hunting and fishing. Maybe trade and help out with neighbors. I think most would do similar.
If we're expecting 6 months to a year, I would start a garden immediately. And with no power I'd imagine fuel would be in short supply, so farmers will need plenty of manual labor to get any value out of their land. Plenty of opportunity to make deals with them to get small local economies going to hopefully keep people fed.
If we're expecting multiple years of downtime, things would be dicier but I still think enough people would remain civilized and band together rather than resort to crime. Of course crime would increase regardless of the timeframe, but I think that having a timeline and goals would keep society mostly together.
But if everything is completely unknown, I think that's when everything would go to hell almost immediately.
So maybe you still disagree, but for me at least, knowing what happened (and hence roughly how long until things get right again) would make all the difference.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 12:41 am to Korkstand
There's a lot to that, which is a major reason that communications is high on my list. A battery-powered short-wave receiver, with a good antenna and world-wide coverage, will tell you a whole lot about what is going on outside your immediate area.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 12:53 am to rickyh
I'd do good as long as my neighbors did good. Once they began to fall, Idk
Posted on 8/27/22 at 1:04 am to Rambler
I agree, communication would be key. Again though, the issue here is what took out the grid. Are satellites still operational? Do any power plants work? Solar? Batteries? Unless everything is just completely destroyed, and I don't know how that would happen without killing us all, we should be able to get many types of comms up and running pretty quickly.
But yeah, lack of communication I guess would be the root cause of the unknown, which in my opinion would make the difference between having some sort of functional society, or a Mad Max type situation.
But yeah, lack of communication I guess would be the root cause of the unknown, which in my opinion would make the difference between having some sort of functional society, or a Mad Max type situation.
Posted on 8/27/22 at 2:18 am to Korkstand
Every country with nuclear capabilities has weapons that are designed to shut down power. Years ago I found information where these weapons could disrupt human ability to reason. We are almost electrical in nature. But for years our govt. has worked on ways to protect against such an attack. But we also know that violent solar flares can do harm also. We don't know what the globalists will do if somehow we figure out a way to vote in enough honest people to disrupt the global reset. Russia and China both know that they can destroy this country by just shutting down the grid for an extended period of time.
The virus was just a grand experiment on humanity. Controlling the weather is causing drought globally. A great food shortage is also in the works. What a time to be a live. For those who called many people conspiracy theorist, the truth is coming out on many things that they laughed at people for when they were only telling the Truth.
The virus was just a grand experiment on humanity. Controlling the weather is causing drought globally. A great food shortage is also in the works. What a time to be a live. For those who called many people conspiracy theorist, the truth is coming out on many things that they laughed at people for when they were only telling the Truth.
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