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Posted on 5/28/22 at 2:10 am to shinerfan
His mother wanted to be a teacher but she became a drug addict and a prostitute. He had some problems but overcame them. See his one man show. He is smart and funny and very self deprecating. Like some have said. We all love a redemption story. “Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future.”
Posted on 5/28/22 at 2:14 am to sabes que
A lot of people hate Tyson.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 2:27 am to sabes que
quote:Most people side with Tyson about the plane guy. Dude was a douche and it probably happens to Tyson all the time. I'm honestly surprised he's not beating the shite out of people all the time, and being praised for it.
We are talking about a convicted rapist that also has threatened unspeakable acts regarding children, also super recently beat the hell out of some guy on a plane. Also he currently and always will be a complete low IQ moron.
It's pretty dumb to keep harping on the children comment. That's his fighter persona and tactics. He obviously wouldn't eat children...
...but he may take a couple bites out of an adult. He was losing and got head-butted and primal instinct took over. Might be wacky in the ring as a professional, but a fight is a fight and it's easy to forgive him for this.
Don't say he raped a minor, she was an adult. And our justice system is the best we can do, but it's not perfect and a conviction doesn't always mean it's right. Only two people know what happened, and given the scenario it's pretty obvious what her intent was and who knows how far it got before she changed her mind.
If you want to hate him for mistreating women, hate him for Robin Givens. She probably abused him as much as he did her, though. I think he's being facetious about his "best punch ever" landing on Givens as I doubt she would have survived. Are there any photos of her beaten up or hospital records or anything? I know there are many forms of abuse and even physical abuse doesn't always leave marks, and not to condone abuse of any kind but it seems overblown.
What's his IQ got to do with being viewed favorably? And he's more knowledgeable than he sounds.
Most importantly he seems to be very open and honest about his past mistakes, and he seems to have gotten his shite straight. For having lived an extremely high profile life, and for having achieved that by acting and being extremely aggressive, and having come from where he did, he could have turned out much worse. Everyone makes mistakes, and he's made some big ones, but like everyone else he deserves credit for owning and correcting them. Everyone loves a comeback story. Everyone also loves honesty, charisma, and humor, and he's got all of that.
I'd let him babysit my kids.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 2:34 am to Korkstand
I would honestly try to encourage you to not have that naive of a mind set
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:40 am to sabes que
I used to be a prosecutor and I attended a seminar not long after the Desiree Washington trial resulted in Tyson's conviction. The keynote speaker at the seminar was the lead prosecutor in the rape trial.
He told this story about Tyson:
Just before Washington was going to testify, they took a recess. The prosecutor approached the clerk's table where items of evidence were located. He started to organize the evidence that would be shown to Washington while she was testifying. Tyson was seated about 15 feet behind him, still at defense counsel's table.
The prosecutor said that he moved a couple of pieces of evidence and then he picked up the plastic baggy that contained Washington's panties. As soon as he picked it up, he could hear grunting coming from behind him.
He moved a couple of other items and then picked up the panty baggy to make sure it was marked correctly, and the grunting started in again, only louder. He then realized it was Tyson, reacting to seeing the panties.
After the recess, Washington was called to the stand, and the prosecutor walked over and picked up the panties and then took a roundabout route to approach the witness stand so he could carry the clear baggy containing the panties as close as he could to where Tyson was seated.
He said that Tyson began grunting and moaning loudly enough that the jurors could hear him and that two of the jurors rocked back in their chairs and gasped. He said that at the close of Washington's testimony, he took the same route to return the evidence and Tyson again reacted with loud grunts and moans.
He was convinced that Tyson's in court reaction to those panties did more to convict him than anything that Washington actually said on the stand.
He told this story about Tyson:
Just before Washington was going to testify, they took a recess. The prosecutor approached the clerk's table where items of evidence were located. He started to organize the evidence that would be shown to Washington while she was testifying. Tyson was seated about 15 feet behind him, still at defense counsel's table.
The prosecutor said that he moved a couple of pieces of evidence and then he picked up the plastic baggy that contained Washington's panties. As soon as he picked it up, he could hear grunting coming from behind him.
He moved a couple of other items and then picked up the panty baggy to make sure it was marked correctly, and the grunting started in again, only louder. He then realized it was Tyson, reacting to seeing the panties.
After the recess, Washington was called to the stand, and the prosecutor walked over and picked up the panties and then took a roundabout route to approach the witness stand so he could carry the clear baggy containing the panties as close as he could to where Tyson was seated.
He said that Tyson began grunting and moaning loudly enough that the jurors could hear him and that two of the jurors rocked back in their chairs and gasped. He said that at the close of Washington's testimony, he took the same route to return the evidence and Tyson again reacted with loud grunts and moans.
He was convinced that Tyson's in court reaction to those panties did more to convict him than anything that Washington actually said on the stand.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:22 am to Scott68
I don’t view Tyson favorably. If he had had to build a life through anything other than boxing he would be dead or in prison. I’m sure he’s mellowed in the years since he retired, but fame and fortune make imagine rehab pretty easy for celebrities with just a tiny bit of positive effort and no major frick ups.
Try image rehab when you’re a John Doe with a felony conviction on your record and want to get a job and find a woman to start a family. That’s the hard road.
Try image rehab when you’re a John Doe with a felony conviction on your record and want to get a job and find a woman to start a family. That’s the hard road.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:33 am to sabes que
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Or saying unspeakable things about children?
You’ve said this like 100 times here. Are you just referencing his goofy rant from 20 something years ago when he said he’d “eat” Lennox Lewis’s kids, or is there something else as well?
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:49 am to sabes que
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Neither did people like Timothy Mcveigh, “not ever claiming to be anything else” but an out of control piece of shite shouldn’t give someone a pass
Other than that one thing, I don't know a whole lot aboot Timothy Mcveigh.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:54 am to m2pro
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He definitely isn't smart.
This couldn't be more untrue. He's more well read and insightful than 99% of the dipshits that post here. You wouldn't last ten seconds in a deep conversation with him.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 6:07 am to OweO
Mitch Green knew about Tyson being anally raped at the Tryon School for Boys (Juvenile Prison). Bobby Stewart and Teddy Atlas also have hinted at this. There is also considerable evidence/rumors that both Cus D’Amato and Jimmy Jacobs were Homosexuals. All of this is why Green was calling Tyson a ‘homosexual’ over and over.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 6:30 am to sabes que
First off she wasn’t a minor and I’m sorry but if you are going back to hotel room at 2 am with anyone let alone Mike Tyson you are either looking to get laid or get paid. She got paid.
Secondly look at the fact that he was a poor kid from the projects that never had a stable upbringing then was used by the slimiest promoter in boxing to become everyone’s payday. To be a great boxer you have to become somewhat of an animal. Think about it. You are training to step in a ring in front of another human being and try to beat them into submission with your bare hands. Making the leap to biting an ear especially when your life is upside down is not hard to fathom.
Third, people are capable of change. Once out of boxing and away from the brutality why is it hard to fathom that he was able to be a little introspective, and want to change to become a better person. I believe he became heavily involved with Budism if I’m not wrong.
And finally, why don’t you get big Mikes name out your mouth before he butch slaps you and eats your children.
Secondly look at the fact that he was a poor kid from the projects that never had a stable upbringing then was used by the slimiest promoter in boxing to become everyone’s payday. To be a great boxer you have to become somewhat of an animal. Think about it. You are training to step in a ring in front of another human being and try to beat them into submission with your bare hands. Making the leap to biting an ear especially when your life is upside down is not hard to fathom.
Third, people are capable of change. Once out of boxing and away from the brutality why is it hard to fathom that he was able to be a little introspective, and want to change to become a better person. I believe he became heavily involved with Budism if I’m not wrong.
And finally, why don’t you get big Mikes name out your mouth before he butch slaps you and eats your children.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 7:55 am to Kingshakabooboo
I like Mike, and am glad he didn't become a statistic, but to call him a GOAT boxer is just ridiculous. He had one great victory in his resume and that was a terrified Michael Spinks.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:37 am to m2pro
He is about as smart as Lebron which isn’t very.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:44 am to sabes que
I believe he is viewed favorably because having a bit of rage within us is a human condition. At times, each of us, if honest, would love to have the freedom of beating the shite out of some a-hole - consequences be damned.
But we don’t succomb to those urges because of our ‘training’ - we have been taught that control is a better virtue and our moral compass was instilled by examples, teaching, and guidance. We didn’t come from a world destitute of positive messages and actions; we weren’t mentally compartmentalized into thinking that winning a boxing match was the key to our salvation, and that the key to winning was to be the most violent.
Tyson overcame many things - the guy had a lot of demons.
But we don’t succomb to those urges because of our ‘training’ - we have been taught that control is a better virtue and our moral compass was instilled by examples, teaching, and guidance. We didn’t come from a world destitute of positive messages and actions; we weren’t mentally compartmentalized into thinking that winning a boxing match was the key to our salvation, and that the key to winning was to be the most violent.
Tyson overcame many things - the guy had a lot of demons.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:47 am to sabes que
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his IQ is 85 or lower
Below average intelligence
He's like a big retard that everyone gives a free pass to plus he's funny and could knock your head off
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:55 am to sabes que
He's done a decent job of rebuilding his image and being viewed in a lighter, more positive light by the media and the public.
Would I trust him around my daughter? frick no
Would I trust him around my daughter? frick no
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:55 am to Globetrotter747
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If he had had to build a life through anything other than boxing he would be dead or in prison.
He's done well. Definitely lived longer than I thought he would. I kinda like the guy.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:57 am to Dawgwithnoname
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I like Mike, and am glad he didn't become a statistic, but to call him a GOAT boxer is just ridiculous. He had one great victory in his resume and that was a terrified Michael Spinks.
That may be true, BUT - Mike Tyson, at that point in time, on that particular night, at his absolute peak, was better than any other heavyweight fighter was at their peak. On that particular night, he would've beaten any boxer in history.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:59 am to Y.A. Tittle
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You’ve said this like 100 times here. Are you just referencing his goofy rant from 20 something years ago when he said he’d “eat” Lennox Lewis’s kids, or is there something else as well?
The hilarious thing is, he was obviously hyping the fight (an age old tradition in boxing to get the purse up) and Lennox Lewis did not have children at that time.
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