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Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:12 pm to
fricking sucks the drug head couldn't listen to the officer to avoid all this

If this officer wouldn't have taken him out his lifestyle would kill him soon enough
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

The ruling came after Billings Police Officer Grant Morrison testified he feared for his life when he fired the three shots that killed 38-year-old Richard Ramirez



#latinlivesmatter
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:23 pm to
I love how cops always keep yelling commands after they've already popped a cap.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:24 pm to
judge, jury and executioner

seems like a good idea
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:25 pm to
Just in case anybody was wondering, officers are now 100% justified in shooting you if they fear that you could potentially pose a deadly threat to them.

Doesn't matter if they ever see a gun.

Read the article. Cops are licensed to kill. Is there any other way to see this?
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:28 pm to
they'll be getting sued a lot
Posted by Kankles
Member since Dec 2012
6119 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

Ramirez
las manos en alto, no disparar
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

The video of that incident that will never be as popular:


I won't pass judgment because it looks like a confusing scene that could have gone either way. But that twitchy pussy cop crying doesn't really do anything to bolster his case. Maybe he shouldn't have shot the junkie if he couldn't emotionally handle taking a human life.

What kind of training do you people receive anyway? These videos always seem to show cops who are either jumpy and overly frightened or on some kind of power trip. Was the meth tweeker even armed (i.e. was there even a gun in the car)? I couldn't tell from the video.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:41 pm to
Yeah I feel bad for the cop that he was trained to kill anyone who didn't do what he said and might maybe pose a threat.

The crying is a normal reaction to that load of adrenaline that just dumped into his system. Doesn't move the needle for me. Hed have to be a psycho to have no reaction to killing a dude like that.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21667 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:49 pm to
Did the guy die? Good.

Stupid arse Games, Stupid arse Prizes.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59692 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:50 pm to
yeah brah, it's great that someone died
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61660 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:51 pm to
I propose a big toast to this officer tonight.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59692 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:53 pm to
My god, what a pussy.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:56 pm to
Shouldn't you post all the info before determining if it was justified?

1) man was wanted for shooting a person during a robbery of methamphetamines.

2) man had been stopped early and had fled on foot and escaped capture.

3) Upon making contact with occupants, the officer recognized the wanted man.

4) Man refused to show officer his hands. (Reasonable to believe a man wanted for shooting someone would have a gun.)

5) Upon backup arriving the officer was noticeably distraught.
Posted by rondo
Worst. Poster. Evar.
Member since Jan 2004
77513 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:56 pm to
quote:


Stupid arse Games, Stupid arse Prizes.



This phrase had jumped the shark
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56007 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:00 pm to
You sound BUTT HURT. JIMMIES RUSTLED. SOLID MELT.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

yeah brah, it's great that someone died

But those lives don't matter.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:02 pm to
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(Reasonable to believe a man wanted for shooting someone would have a gun.)


So he can just shoot anybody who he reasonably expects might have a gun and who might be guilty of a previous crime? That sound like the American justice system to you?
Presuming guilt from a previous crime and using that presumed guilt to kill him when he doesn't do exactly what you want him to do with his hands?

Just for the record, our soldiers in combat have stricter rules of engagement than that. They cant shoot until they see a gun.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

So he can just shoot anybody who he reasonably expects might have a gun and who might be guilty of a previous crime?
Presuming guilt from a previous crime and using that presumed guilt to kill him when he doesn't do exactly what you want him to do with his hands?


You have to look at the whole picture though not just individual facts.

The fact that the guy was wanted for shooting someone makes it reasonable to believe he had a gun.


What was the officer's statement and justification to shooting him......we don't know.

We have only a small portion of the info....yet some already pass judgement on whether or not it was justified.

I'm just pointing out that the video does not give the full picture.
Posted by ShakeyTurtle
Tensas Parish
Member since Jul 2011
753 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:11 pm to
Meth lives matter
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