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re: WTF happened to JonBenet?
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:56 am to East Coast Band
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:56 am to East Coast Band
I wasn't saying parents never killed their kids, just that the murder never went down with this kind of intricate planning before or after.
IMO, it takes more of a mental leap to believe a parent killed their child in this way than for it to have been done by a stranger.
I'm not saying I know exactly what happened. We all have our opinions. This is mine.
IMO, it takes more of a mental leap to believe a parent killed their child in this way than for it to have been done by a stranger.
I'm not saying I know exactly what happened. We all have our opinions. This is mine.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 7:58 am
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Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:57 am to Salamander_Wilson
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He then went to jonbenet's bedroom and tazed her, bound her and duck taped her mouth.
You don't understand. The taser theory has proven to be false. Every shred of evidence points to an inside job
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:59 am to efrad
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2:00 AM Neighbor Heard Scream. Neighbor Melody Stanton heard scream (details).
bullshite. How the hell could you hear someone scream from next door inside that big arse house lol. Give me a break
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:59 am to Howyouluhdat
Ok, so take the tazer out of the picture. Doesn't change anything except one specific about my theory.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 8:06 am to Salamander_Wilson
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I see what you're saying, but if it was truly premeditated they could have done it at any time, any place. Why do it then
I don't think there is any theory out there stating premeditation. It was an accident by Burke
Posted on 9/23/16 at 8:06 am to Salamander_Wilson
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Ok, so take the tazer out of the picture. Doesn't change anything except one specific about my theory.
No your entire theory has been proven false by experts. I just didn't feel like addressing all of them
Posted on 9/23/16 at 8:19 am to BiggerBear
Burke probably pleasures himself to a photo of JonBenet every night. He is one creepy frick.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 8:32 am to Salamander_Wilson
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Sexually abused her
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So it was not a pedophile. It was someone who wanted to get back at John Ramsey for a past wrong.
People who sexually abuse little girls aren't pedophiles?
Posted on 9/23/16 at 8:34 am to Bench McElroy
Burke has issues and I think he had issues back then. The parents knew it and their friends knew it. That's why they told their friends not to talk to police. They didn't want Burke's previous abusive behavior to be brought into the picture. That's why the Ranseys got so pissed at the family friend that gave interviews to the police.
He did it, went and told his parents that he hurt her or hit her. Prolly not the first time this had happened. The parents go find her and see how fricked up the situation is and realize she's dead.
What do they do? Call the cops? 911? Ambulance?
frick no, they can't allow that scene to be made public. She's already dead anyway. No one can help her. It's all about saving their reputation and Burke at this point.
Burke comes out his room while mom is on the phone with 911. He asks "what did u find?" Hoping that he gets an answer of, she's gonna be ok. He's already snapped out of his little temper tantrum fit that he was previously in when he killed her.
Dad says "we're not taking to you" That's probably a tactic they used on him when he did stupid things. IMO they didn't discipline him worth a shite.
They were enablers. That's why friends had bought them books on disciplining children in the past. Their inability to control that little demon kid cost them their daughter.
At this point they do everything they can think of to sabatoge everything.
He did it, went and told his parents that he hurt her or hit her. Prolly not the first time this had happened. The parents go find her and see how fricked up the situation is and realize she's dead.
What do they do? Call the cops? 911? Ambulance?
frick no, they can't allow that scene to be made public. She's already dead anyway. No one can help her. It's all about saving their reputation and Burke at this point.
Burke comes out his room while mom is on the phone with 911. He asks "what did u find?" Hoping that he gets an answer of, she's gonna be ok. He's already snapped out of his little temper tantrum fit that he was previously in when he killed her.
Dad says "we're not taking to you" That's probably a tactic they used on him when he did stupid things. IMO they didn't discipline him worth a shite.
They were enablers. That's why friends had bought them books on disciplining children in the past. Their inability to control that little demon kid cost them their daughter.
At this point they do everything they can think of to sabatoge everything.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 8:37 am
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:01 am to LsuTool
Wasn't it proven that the blow to the head didn't kill her nd that it was the strangulation that did?
This is my main hang up on it being one of the parents.
This is my main hang up on it being one of the parents.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:18 am to RobbBobb
It is blatantly obvious that the Ramsey's son killed her (could be completely accidental). And the parents covered it up.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 9:54 am
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:30 am to Salamander_Wilson
Strangulation killed her but was likely unconscious after blow to the head
Makes it easier for a 9 yo to do.
I just don't buy the parents doing the garrote. It's too personal and sadastic to do if simply trying to cover up for Burke. They could have done something else to cover up for him. Not something so hateful.
Makes it easier for a 9 yo to do.
I just don't buy the parents doing the garrote. It's too personal and sadastic to do if simply trying to cover up for Burke. They could have done something else to cover up for him. Not something so hateful.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:55 am to LsuTool
One of the biggest things for me is the flashlight. It is most likely what was used for the blow to the head and it was wiped clean. Not a single print on the outside of it or on the batteries. There is no way that it was immaculately clean like that at all times. And I can totally buy the theory that Burke jabbed her with the toy railroad tracks to see if she was dead and that what the marks were instead of a taser.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:10 am to Soup Sammich
And did they ever find the missing wooden stick or whatever it was that the garrote was mad from? The fact they said it wasn't in the house was one of the reasons I thought it was an intruder at first. If one of the 3 in the house did it, then it should have still been in the house. That's if they really didn't leave the house. Even if they took it and disposed of it, why not get rid of the garrote also to show an intruder left with it. I may have just missed where they explained that. For the record, I think Burke did it and the parents know it. I just don't understand the parents thinking if they really were covering up for Burke. It is such a risky thing to do if you were innocent even if it was their son.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:15 am to LsuTool
Was there really anything done by the parents that wasn't irrational and/or sadistic at that point though?
They had officially snapped and being the enablers that they were (I like that analysis and agree 100%) - they came up with this elaborate story. I mean, that whole thing in a nutshell is crazy enough for me. The supposed ransom letter, lies to cover up lies, etc.
And the craziest thing of it all is that it's still unsolved. And unsolved because people nearest to them want it to be unsolved.
They had officially snapped and being the enablers that they were (I like that analysis and agree 100%) - they came up with this elaborate story. I mean, that whole thing in a nutshell is crazy enough for me. The supposed ransom letter, lies to cover up lies, etc.
And the craziest thing of it all is that it's still unsolved. And unsolved because people nearest to them want it to be unsolved.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:18 am to Soup Sammich
A few theories I've read:
The dad made the garotte so death would be as effective and quick as possible. Also he may have laid her face down so he didn't have to watch with garotte still accessible.
As for the train track wounds, there are prior pictures of JB which similar markings appear on her legs. Another theory is in Burke's 9 year old mind he may have been trying to revive her thinking the track would give her a jolt of electricity.
The dad made the garotte so death would be as effective and quick as possible. Also he may have laid her face down so he didn't have to watch with garotte still accessible.
As for the train track wounds, there are prior pictures of JB which similar markings appear on her legs. Another theory is in Burke's 9 year old mind he may have been trying to revive her thinking the track would give her a jolt of electricity.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:20 am to RealityTiger
The mother was such a bitch during her detective interviews. I just cannot see it any other way than Burke hitting her and the mother covering it up. There are entirely too many flaw in their story.
The fact that Burke showed no empathy and was "moving on", the fact that they didn't cooperate with the investigation, and that the mother and father both hired different attorneys are giant red flags to me.
The fact that Burke showed no empathy and was "moving on", the fact that they didn't cooperate with the investigation, and that the mother and father both hired different attorneys are giant red flags to me.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:23 am to WestSideTiger
The case is unsolved because the Boulder PD completely fricked up. They acted like a bunch of amateurs and did not treat the Ramsey home as a crime scene from the beginning like they should have.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:25 am to RealityTiger
it is unsolved because
1. The police on scene screwed it from the beginning
2. The DA
1. The police on scene screwed it from the beginning
2. The DA
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:25 am to fatboydave
it was her brother
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