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re: WTF happened to JonBenet?
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:25 pm to PatDyesPants
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:25 pm to PatDyesPants
link?
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Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:33 pm to efrad
Just use google images
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:41 pm to Gris Gris
It's just so much misinformation out with this it's hard to tell what did and didn't hapoen. That article said she was sexually abused but now the experts they had on the special said that she wasn't sexually abused. They are world renowned experts but on the other hand they weren't there to examine the body. I still think that the most likely scenario was Burke did it and the parents covered it up in shock but a lot of that theory doesn't make since either.
I don't think Burke could of made the garrote.
I think the open window was an obvious attempt to mislead bc of the spider webs being undisturbed.
The flashlight most likely being used for the blow to the head and it being wiped down on the outside and even the batteries.
Why would an intruder spend so much time in the house, writing a long ransom note with the parents there?
Burke shitting in her bed and rubbing some it on her candy.
Too much stuff doesn't add up and I truly don't know what facts are real and what facts aren't. They keep changing.
I don't think Burke could of made the garrote.
I think the open window was an obvious attempt to mislead bc of the spider webs being undisturbed.
The flashlight most likely being used for the blow to the head and it being wiped down on the outside and even the batteries.
Why would an intruder spend so much time in the house, writing a long ransom note with the parents there?
Burke shitting in her bed and rubbing some it on her candy.
Too much stuff doesn't add up and I truly don't know what facts are real and what facts aren't. They keep changing.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:42 pm to PatDyesPants
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Just use google images
Nevermind, I thought you had some sort of comprehensive source.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:07 pm to efrad
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Nevermind, I thought you had some sort of comprehensive source.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 12:01 am to pioneerbasketball
Bottom line, I refuse to believe that John Ramsey slowly killed his daughter through garroting in order to protect his son. It just does not add up. Plain and simple.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 12:08 am to fatboydave
the brother killed her
mother and father covered it up
mother and father covered it up
Posted on 9/24/16 at 12:10 am to HaveMercy
Because he didn't. Did she not die from the blow to the head? I assumed all that was just part of the cover up.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 12:47 am to bigberg2000
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Because he didn't. Did she not die from the blow to the head? I assumed all that was just part of the cover up.
Exactly. The blow to the head came at least an hour before the "choke." That creepy jealous brother got mad that she took a piece of his pineapple so he whacked her. There was already testimony (although hearsay) from a family friend that Burke got mad at her 18 months before and hit her in the face with a golf club after he got mad at her. Then Patsy changed the story during interrogation. Also, Burke smeared feces all over Jonbenet's box of candy. The Dr. Phil interviews over those 2 episodes were just weird and awkward. That didn't do him any favors just like the terrible advice the parents got from some PR firm to do an interview 1 week after the murder. It's painfully obvious that they are involved. But yeah, some intruder came in and wrote a ransom note in female handwriting talking about how he was with a "foreign faction" and wanted John's $118,000 bonus or "she dies." GTFO
Posted on 9/24/16 at 2:29 am to tigerpimpbot
So the Ramseys lawyer is threatening to CBS for drawing the conclusion that Burke did it. And so the fun begins. I think hes bit off more than he can chew
1) Now that hes threatened, but doesn't follow thru, it will be seen as an admission of guilt
2) If he follows thru, then the nation gets the full trial that the POS DA refused to arrange, despite a grand jury saying it was warranted
3) And if he loses the civil law suit, then criminal charges might follow. I don't imagine homicide has a statue of limitations on it?
4) And if he tries to defend the family, he risks exposing some pretty obvious lies; JB was asleep (yet ate pineapple), Burke was asleep (yet 3 voices on 911 call), exonerated by previous DA (disavowed by current DA as 'weird', 'a stretch'), cleared by investigation (grand jury had agreed to 4+ charges), window entry, use of tazer (easily disproven)
Also, the forces that brought pressure to protect the Ramseys, wealth, politicians, Lockheed Martin aren't as influential as they were
1) Now that hes threatened, but doesn't follow thru, it will be seen as an admission of guilt
2) If he follows thru, then the nation gets the full trial that the POS DA refused to arrange, despite a grand jury saying it was warranted
3) And if he loses the civil law suit, then criminal charges might follow. I don't imagine homicide has a statue of limitations on it?
4) And if he tries to defend the family, he risks exposing some pretty obvious lies; JB was asleep (yet ate pineapple), Burke was asleep (yet 3 voices on 911 call), exonerated by previous DA (disavowed by current DA as 'weird', 'a stretch'), cleared by investigation (grand jury had agreed to 4+ charges), window entry, use of tazer (easily disproven)
Also, the forces that brought pressure to protect the Ramseys, wealth, politicians, Lockheed Martin aren't as influential as they were
Posted on 9/24/16 at 10:08 am to bigberg2000
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Because he didn't. Did she not die from the blow to the head? I assumed all that was just part of the cover up.
The official cause of death was from asphyxiation associated with head trauma. They believe the strangulation took place at least an hour after the head injury. Basically, she had a terminal head injury, was dying and then she was strangled and died. I refuse to believe that a father took his dying, 6 year old daughter, fashioned a garrote around her neck and strangled her. No way. I could maybe buy into him smothering her with a pillow, maybe. But I don't believe he would have used a garrote; that's just too brutal and weird.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 10:34 am to HaveMercy
The folks that support the Ramseys murdering her are doing some big time downvoting to support the murders in here.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 11:22 am to Howyouluhdat
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Found yes but killed there no.
uh, the screams could have been from Patsy, after she saw what her husband had cooked up in making it look like an intruder had abused JB
Posted on 9/24/16 at 11:29 am to RobbBobb
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So the Ramseys lawyer is threatening to CBS for drawing the conclusion that Burke did it.
They're not going to sue shite. That would potentially subject John and Burke to depositions under oath.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 11:47 am to HaveMercy
HaveMercy, I couldn't agree with you more. It just takes way more logical leaps to think a mother or father garrotted their child than to think an intruder did.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 4:05 pm to Salamander_Wilson
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HaveMercy, I couldn't agree with you more. It just takes way more logical leaps to think a mother or father garrotted their child than to think an intruder did.
Logical leaps? Certainly not.
Emotional leaps? Sure.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:28 am to Soup Sammich
Brother just filed 150 million suit against doc who said he killed her
Posted on 10/7/16 at 11:22 am to jb4
Can't say as I blame him.
I was pretty much sure he did it until I watched the A & E documentary the other night.
Those cops just got a hard-on for that family and wouldn't let up.
2 things I learned that chanced my mind: she was alive when she was garroted; marks on her neck were consistent to her trying to claw the rope off her neck. I never believed John Ramsey garroted his daughter while she was unconscious; no way in hell he did it with her conscious and struggling.
The ME interviewed said there was no way to definitively prove if she received the blow to the head before, during, or after the garrote.
There was DNA found under her fingernails that did not match anyone in the family. The police knew about this but did not release the evidence to the DA's office.
The touch DNA that the CBS documentary team concluded came from a factory worker was found on her panties and her leggings. They failed to mention the leggings.
John Ramsey's interview on the A&E show was hard to watch. That guy went through hell.
I was pretty much sure he did it until I watched the A & E documentary the other night.
Those cops just got a hard-on for that family and wouldn't let up.
2 things I learned that chanced my mind: she was alive when she was garroted; marks on her neck were consistent to her trying to claw the rope off her neck. I never believed John Ramsey garroted his daughter while she was unconscious; no way in hell he did it with her conscious and struggling.
The ME interviewed said there was no way to definitively prove if she received the blow to the head before, during, or after the garrote.
There was DNA found under her fingernails that did not match anyone in the family. The police knew about this but did not release the evidence to the DA's office.
The touch DNA that the CBS documentary team concluded came from a factory worker was found on her panties and her leggings. They failed to mention the leggings.
John Ramsey's interview on the A&E show was hard to watch. That guy went through hell.
This post was edited on 10/7/16 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 10/7/16 at 12:07 pm to HaveMercy
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I was pretty much sure he did it until I watched the A & E documentary the other night.
Oh lawd. Are your serious? That A & E documentary was straight propaganda. Essentially an infomercial. It was so bad my wife and I both think that John Ramsey paid for it.
Posted on 10/7/16 at 12:45 pm to Cooter Davenport
Go back in this thread and find my posts about that garbage A&E "documentary".
The producers of that garbage are in the Ramsey back pocket and this is their 4th "documentary" on the case.
In each one, they "prove" someone but the Ramseys killed Jon Benet.
But after each new "real killer" is proven to have had nothing to do with the crime, they move on to another.
The A&E "documentary" and it's makers are some shady, full of shite Ramsey sycophants.
The producers of that garbage are in the Ramsey back pocket and this is their 4th "documentary" on the case.
In each one, they "prove" someone but the Ramseys killed Jon Benet.
But after each new "real killer" is proven to have had nothing to do with the crime, they move on to another.
The A&E "documentary" and it's makers are some shady, full of shite Ramsey sycophants.
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