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Lawsuits from recreational fisherman?
Posted on 6/1/10 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 6/1/10 at 10:39 pm
I'm sure they are in the works but technically aren't the recreational fisherman SAVING money because of this? How do you throw a number out there for damages? I know I spend probably a grand or so each summer on gas, bait and what not and I guess I won't be spending that on fishing this summer.
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 10:40 pm to Cosmo
i was just talking about that with a friend today
Posted on 6/1/10 at 10:41 pm to Cosmo
Ughhh No. There are recreational fisherman that have Hundreds of thousands invested. Camps Boat equipment ect.
This post was edited on 6/1/10 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 6/1/10 at 10:42 pm to MoreOrLes
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There are recreational fisherman that have Hundreds of thousands invested. Camps Boat equipment ect.
Right, which they aren't using, thus saving money. Can you sue for loss of fun/entertainment?
Posted on 6/1/10 at 10:44 pm to Cosmo
Pain and suffering?
Posted on 6/1/10 at 10:44 pm to Cosmo
Loss of property value. I would say yes. As far as your boat. If its not directly damaged by oil...I would say no.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 10:45 pm to MoreOrLes
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Loss of property value. I would say yes.
Thats different. And that is legit. I'm talking about recreational fishing specifically not camp owners.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 10:51 pm to Cosmo
Camp owners are often recreational fisherman. In fact Ide say most are. (But I know what youre sayin.)
There is a class action lawsuit for recreational fisherman but the only way Ide sign on is if the state got the award. I think all fishing license revenues should be paid for by BP.
The question is for what period of time. It would be easy to take a 2 or 3 year average of saltwater fishing license revenue but how long would you project that loss moving forward.
Also, one could argue that the people who have boats in their backyards have lost boat value as many including mine will become worth less each year you cant use them. And please dont tell me where to fish. BTW I think that argument would be a big stretch.
There is a class action lawsuit for recreational fisherman but the only way Ide sign on is if the state got the award. I think all fishing license revenues should be paid for by BP.
The question is for what period of time. It would be easy to take a 2 or 3 year average of saltwater fishing license revenue but how long would you project that loss moving forward.
Also, one could argue that the people who have boats in their backyards have lost boat value as many including mine will become worth less each year you cant use them. And please dont tell me where to fish. BTW I think that argument would be a big stretch.
This post was edited on 6/1/10 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 6/1/10 at 10:55 pm to MoreOrLes
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Also, one could argue that the people who have boats in their backyards have lost boat value as many including mine will become worth less each year you cant use them.
But the boat loses value whether you use it or not. And if you don't use your boat (less wear and tear) it would depreciate less.
Maybe you could make an argument that the market for used boats as a whole has depreciated due to the oil
Posted on 6/1/10 at 10:56 pm to Cosmo
Thats pretty much it. Admittedly a stretch. 
This post was edited on 6/1/10 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 6/1/10 at 11:00 pm to MoreOrLes
To take it a step further.....I just spent about 700.00 a week before this BS started and it will mostly be lost as it was batteries new canvas for the T top ect. and my boats outside. Of course my issues pale in comparison to most. I just figured ide vent 
Posted on 6/1/10 at 11:01 pm to Cosmo
Cant sue after a hurricane why would we be able to sue after this? It just a chance we take with giving oil leases. Most of the the camp owners and boat owners that have hundreds of thousands are connected to the O&G and wouldn't sue anyways. Plus everyone in this industry is so busy right now, no one is worried about not fishing right now. most are trying to make up for the past 18 months of down business.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 11:07 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Most of the the camp owners and boat owners that have hundreds of thousands are connected to the O&G and wouldn't sue anyways.
You couldnt be any more wrong. IMO I know many camp owners in both shell beach and Venice Marina........NONE have anything to do with the oil industry.
There are many that make a living related to the fishing industry and some for several generations. I'm quite sure they are worried.
This post was edited on 6/1/10 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 6/1/10 at 11:09 pm to MoreOrLes
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You couldnt be any more wrong. IMO I know many camp owners in both shell beach and Venice Marina........NONE have anything to do with the oil industry.
I guess I was referring more to Grand Isle and Cocodrie
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There are many that make a living related to the fishing industry and some for several generations. I'm quite sure they are worried.
As they should be according to the media
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:32 am to tgrbaitn08
Fishing is our stress relief from work, we can't go to Venice or Grand Isle and fish. Now we are more stressed out than ever.....what's Morris Bart's number! 
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:55 am to MoreOrLes
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You couldnt be any more wrong. IMO I know many camp owners in both shell beach and Venice Marina........NONE have anything to do with the oil industry.
85% of my friends who own camps in GI, Venice, Cocodrie, Dularge, Cyp Point, Big Lake are connected in one way or another to oil and gas. I am not friends with any commercial fishermen so I cant speak to their camp situation.
ETA: Mi familia has 2 camps and a handful of boats that are useless from this and we wont be joining any silly lawsuits(we're all connected to the oil biz). But I completely understand and support the commercial guys trying to get whatever they can.
This post was edited on 6/2/10 at 8:20 am
Posted on 6/2/10 at 8:05 am to Bussemer
2 things: These recreational fisherman are not allowed to sell thier catch, so they will not be able to show REAL economic damages.
Secondly, if I owned a bunch of offshore platforms and I got sued by a bunch of fisherman, guess what: You are not allowed to fish near my platforms anymore. These idiots signing these petitions should think about the consequences of their actions.
Secondly, if I owned a bunch of offshore platforms and I got sued by a bunch of fisherman, guess what: You are not allowed to fish near my platforms anymore. These idiots signing these petitions should think about the consequences of their actions.
This post was edited on 6/2/10 at 8:06 am
Posted on 6/2/10 at 8:58 am to Me4Heisman
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Secondly, if I owned a bunch of offshore platforms and I got sued by a bunch of fisherman, guess what: You are not allowed to fish near my platforms anymore. These idiots signing these petitions should think about the consequences of their actions.
THIS!! +100000000000000000
Posted on 6/2/10 at 9:12 am to Cosmo
If you purchased a beach house and all of a sudden the entire beach is covered with oil and deemed useless from this BP incident,should the beach house owner be able to sue?
Posted on 6/2/10 at 9:13 am to MoreOrLes
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As far as your boat
Loss of intended use!
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