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re: Oilfield Moratorium
Posted on 6/2/10 at 4:10 pm to offshoretrash
Posted on 6/2/10 at 4:10 pm to offshoretrash
Agreed, he should reword it. But you're a tad emotional about this. I am not putting down any of the offshore workers. I drive 60 damn miles to and from work. I went to the funeral of an old friend who passed away so I am not and never have made one post indicating a lack of respect for the risks they take or the product they provide. I am only saying this:
Their are risks associated with offshore, deepwater drilling that we did not anticipate and further review of this industry is warranted before further endangering this country's food supply.
So don't give me any crap about me having made a stupid comment or having insinuated that I know something about the industry. I only know what's a stake. Everyone here does.
Their are risks associated with offshore, deepwater drilling that we did not anticipate and further review of this industry is warranted before further endangering this country's food supply.
So don't give me any crap about me having made a stupid comment or having insinuated that I know something about the industry. I only know what's a stake. Everyone here does.
This post was edited on 6/2/10 at 4:11 pm
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Posted on 6/2/10 at 4:21 pm to Big McLargeHuge
Flew over most of BS and Main Pass today and saw very little oil. All of the pics yall are seeing is for the most part in a 5 to 10 mile radius around the leak site. The fish, shrimp, craps and every other fricking thing that lives out here is fine so why dont you just shut it and admit you are just regurgitating what you've gotten from the news.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 4:26 pm to GREENHEAD22
What the hell have I regurgitated? I said their are risks associated with drilling we have not anticipated and that a drilling accident has the capability to destroy an ecosystem. Stop being a hack.
Oh, and having seen this: A Week Later In Grand Isle, I understand exactly what could happen here.
eta, I'm sure the part about dead bottom feeders is nothing to worry about. And I'm sure those on the beach are the only ones that happened too. Get real dude. Flying over Breton Sound and Main Pass doesn't mean you have a clue about the long term impacts of this, especially in a place like the Barataria. Back off and stop reading more into what I said than is actually there.
Oh, and having seen this: A Week Later In Grand Isle, I understand exactly what could happen here.
eta, I'm sure the part about dead bottom feeders is nothing to worry about. And I'm sure those on the beach are the only ones that happened too. Get real dude. Flying over Breton Sound and Main Pass doesn't mean you have a clue about the long term impacts of this, especially in a place like the Barataria. Back off and stop reading more into what I said than is actually there.
This post was edited on 6/2/10 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 6/2/10 at 4:33 pm to Big McLargeHuge
If Grand isle is so bad off then why did they open the beaches back up and the fishing back up 2 days ago? riddle me that smart one.
ETA: Im sitting in the gulf as we speak.
ETA: Im sitting in the gulf as we speak.
This post was edited on 6/2/10 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 6/2/10 at 4:33 pm to offshoretrash
There will definitely be some loss of income for families over this. Spoke with my step-father today and they are in the process of cold stacking some of their deepwater rigs in preparation.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 4:35 pm to redstick13
Talked to my buddy yesterday who works for Diamond, said his rig and 3 others were doing the same.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 4:36 pm to GREENHEAD22
Again, we don't know yet. Get it through your head and stop ignoring me. I said we have not fully aniticpated some of these risks and that the impact of drilling could destroy an ecosystem. We are 40 days into this and you are trying to pretend like you know damn well that nothing will come of it. You don't. Just like I don't know that we're screwed. Admit you're ignorant about how this will end and respond to what I actually said. That we should reevaluate the risks associated with deepwater drilling and the impact it can have to our food supply. But you can't address that directly because YOU ARE A HACK!
eta, I don't care if you are in the gulf. I can tell you right now that trout aren't sitting in the marsh and won't be back till Septemberish. I can tell you now that I'll be able to go fishing and catch something. But neither of us know the full impact this will have a year or two from now. To act like you do just proves my point, that you and most others on this board are not capable of critical thought.
eta, I don't care if you are in the gulf. I can tell you right now that trout aren't sitting in the marsh and won't be back till Septemberish. I can tell you now that I'll be able to go fishing and catch something. But neither of us know the full impact this will have a year or two from now. To act like you do just proves my point, that you and most others on this board are not capable of critical thought.
This post was edited on 6/2/10 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 6/2/10 at 4:52 pm to Big McLargeHuge
trout are not in the marsh at this time of year anyway, they are offshore and on the beaches.
There are numerous threads on the potential for this leak to be disasterous for the ecosystem. This thread is not one of them, but I guess it has been hi-jacked.
I'd love to hear the rationale for the massive income loss and lay-offs caused by the drilling moratorium, because I cannot imagine there is a sane arguement in favor of what has been done. This is knee-jerk reaction taken to a devastatng extreem.
There are numerous threads on the potential for this leak to be disasterous for the ecosystem. This thread is not one of them, but I guess it has been hi-jacked.
I'd love to hear the rationale for the massive income loss and lay-offs caused by the drilling moratorium, because I cannot imagine there is a sane arguement in favor of what has been done. This is knee-jerk reaction taken to a devastatng extreem.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 4:55 pm to Debaser
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I'd love to hear the rationale for the massive income loss and lay-offs caused by the drilling moratorium, because I cannot imagine there is a sane arguement in favor of what has been done. This is knee-jerk reaction taken to a devastatng extreem.
I would like to here a sane argument myself. I am currently making plans for movement of my people to other areas of the world now. We are all waiting to find out how many rigs end up getting stacked.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 4:56 pm to Debaser
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trout are not in the marsh at this time of year anyway, they are offshore and on the beaches.
That's almost exactly what I said.
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There are numerous threads on the potential for this leak to be disasterous for the ecosystem. This thread is not one of them, but I guess it has been hi-jacked.
I was simply voicing my approval for the moratorium before some butt hurt posters started crying about how I value an animal's life more than a humans, which I never came close to saying.
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I'd love to hear the rationale for the massive income loss and lay-offs caused by the drilling moratorium, because I cannot imagine there is a sane arguement in favor of what has been done. This is knee-jerk reaction taken to a devastatng extreem.
It's going to suck. I'd much rather us mandate all drilling be accompanied by a relief well until further investigations can be completed.
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I would like to here a sane argument myself. I am currently making plans for movement of my people to other areas of the world now. We are all waiting to find out how many rigs end up getting stacked.
The oil industry has been paying off the regulators for a few years and now we realize we're potentially putting our way of life at risk because of it. The moratorium serves a few purposes that could benefit Louisiana. 1.) Lowering the risk of a drilling accident causing further damage heading into hurricane season and 2.) the rest of the world realizing what happens when we don't play nice and offering us some royalties on our oil immediately. I would much rather immediate, appropriate regulation like a mandatory relief well, but I am ok with this.
This post was edited on 6/2/10 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 6/2/10 at 5:01 pm to TigerFred
I'm glad our local "leaders" are so concerned with this......maybe they should get off of their arse and make the president realize the grave mistake he's making.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 5:03 pm to Big McLargeHuge
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since industry has clearly demonstrated an inability to handle DW drilling without such.
Wrong. BP has proven their inability to drill in DW safely. Dont pin their bullshite on the rest of the industry and the hard working people of the Gulf Coast region who are employed by them.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 5:05 pm to lsugradman
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Wrong. BP has proven their inability to drill in DW safely. Dont pin their bullshite on the rest of the industry and the hard working people of the Gulf Coast region who are employed by them.
Wrong. In a worst case scenario, the industry has demonstrated they can protect our coast, so changes are needed.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 5:07 pm to Big McLargeHuge
I love these people who knew all about the oil industry who's only knowledge is what's been reported for the past month and a half.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 5:08 pm to Big McLargeHuge
Numerous times in this thread you have proven you know nothing about the industry. If you live anywhere in the Gulf South, whatever you do for a living will be impacted by this moratorium.
Drilling a relief well would make a lot of companies happy because it would double the amount of rigs, personnel, and equipment that is required to perform work. However, a relief well is not feasible because it doubles the risk of problems.
Drilling a relief well would make a lot of companies happy because it would double the amount of rigs, personnel, and equipment that is required to perform work. However, a relief well is not feasible because it doubles the risk of problems.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 5:10 pm to TJG210
You never said can from what i can see. And yes there is a possibility that this can be very bad for the ecosystem. Do I think it will, not very likely, This thing would have to flow for another year for it to start doing long term damage imho. In the late 70's there was a spill in the gulf much larger that flowed for over a year. The area had very little long term damage and sure arse hell didn't ruin the "food source" as you keep saying. And I brought up me being in the Gulf to reiterate that the ecosystem as of right now is fine.
This post was edited on 6/2/10 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 6/2/10 at 5:18 pm to Big McLargeHuge
quote:There is no correlation between this accident and hurricanes. The risks of this accident repeating have not increased because this incident occurred. Its stochastic. If you flip a coin 50 times and it comes up heads each time... the odds of the next flip are... still 50-50. The odds of this happening again are no higher than they were a year ago. It's still a once-in-a-lifetime event.
1.) Lowering the risk of a drilling accident causing further damage heading into hurricane season and
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2.) the rest of the world realizing what happens when we don't play nice and offering us some royalties on our oil immediately.
"the world" offers us royalties on our oil? quote:Mandatory relief wells are a dumb idea. Instead of risking a blow out from one well, you have doubled the risk of blow out. A "relief" well is just as likely to blow out as the proposed production well. Thus, all you have done is make the risk of a blow out twice as likely.
I would much rather immediate, appropriate regulation like a mandatory relief well, but I am ok with this.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 5:19 pm to TigerFred
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However, a relief well is not feasible because it doubles the risk of problems.
Yeah the dumbass doesn't think that you have just doubled the risk of a blow. They think it's no big deal to drill a relief well. If your drilling a wildcat how the hell are you gonna know where to drill?
If they required the companys to drill relief well your energy cost would double and no one could afford to pay double to drill a well for nothing. It would cost over a million a day just to pay for the drilling rigs not counting all the support people. The Gulf would shut down!
Posted on 6/2/10 at 5:22 pm to TJG210
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I love these people who knew all about the oil industry who's only knowledge is what's been reported for the past month and a half.
True, but there are also plenty of guys around here that work in the oil industry that pretend to be experts in marine and coastal ecology.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 5:22 pm to offshoretrash
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I would much rather immediate, appropriate regulation like a mandatory relief well
Did someone seriously suggest this? If so, holy crap what a retard.
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