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re: 167# First Place Tarpon
Posted on 8/3/16 at 5:15 pm to Hog Zealot
Posted on 8/3/16 at 5:15 pm to Hog Zealot
Posted on 8/3/16 at 5:17 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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You guys crack me up with this stuff. The species is doing just fine. If you cared that much about just saving a fish's life you don't plan to eat you would never hook one, especially on light tackle or fly gear.
I'm a little confused on what you mean by light tackle. Calling a 12wt with a 60 pound leader light tackle is pretty ignorant but I digress.
It has nothing to do with saving the fishes life, that was never the point. We willfully endanger every fish we hook, it's about how you conduct yourself after the fish is landed. If the picture published by BTT showed tarpon being studied by biologists we wouldn't be having this conversation. Unfortunately the picture shows the fish throw into the water like garbage. I full understand that we aren't harming the population but that is not a good enough excuse for conducting yourself in such a way.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 5:29 pm to Barf
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The only thing that is undeniable with this subject is the marina the day after the rodeo is disgusting and we should be ashamed.
I dont think that picture is from sand dollar anyone recgonize it? There were not that many fish killed for the rodeo this year or in the last 5 years.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 5:34 pm to PapaPogey
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i cant remember who my BIL went with, but he said the Cpt was a huge entitled dick and pretty much kept screaming at these grown men the whole time
Not the guy in that article then
Posted on 8/3/16 at 6:27 pm to bluemoons
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The inshore fishery in Louisiana is twice as good as Florida's - from the standpoint of the sheer vastness of the marsh, the quantity of the fish, and the health of the fishery.
Quick question, do you think that the recreational fisherman have any impact at all on our fishery? Or do you think the decline is a combination of things unrelated to the rec crowd? Meaning saltwater intrusion, loss of habitat, etcetera etcetera etcetera.
Tarpon fishing in Lake P use to be something special. One thing is for sure, and that the decline in that population is not from over harvest but rather a change in the eco system. If you dig through the history of the New Orleans Tarpon Club it's pretty clear. I don't know, just something to think about. I might be too high for this.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 6:40 pm to Barf
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that is undeniable with this subject is the marina the day after the rodeo is disgusting and we should be ashamed.
Thank you for your post. This is exactly what I'm talking about.
Florida may have a higher mortality rate, but they aren't just killing them for a trophy.
I've been a professional fisherman my entire adult life. My colleges and I refuse to participate in the tarpon rodeo. Things need to change, and it's for the better of the industry and our grandchildren and their children.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 6:44 pm to Barf
Commercial fishing, namely the pogie industry has had a huge negative impact on the tarpon migration and population in Louisiana.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 6:49 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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So it was cool while you were enjoying it, but now that you no longer enjoy, everyone should stop? GTFO. Shitty poster on every board.
I was young and hungry for success.
I never said anyone should stop, it's how I make a living. I said the rules should change, for the betterment of all involved.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 6:56 pm to Sparkplug#1
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 6:59 pm to KG6
How far offshore? Is it doable in a bay boat?
I am amazed that more people don't tarpon fish.
I am amazed that more people don't tarpon fish.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:11 pm to voros79
I've seen a guy catch one in a 17 whaler. It varies as to how far out. I'm usually drunk and not paying a lot of attention. Thing is you may be very close in, or you may have to run. People do fish them in bigger Bay boats for the rodeo, but there are usually many other boats around.
I thought about putting my hobbie PA on my cousins boat one year. But he took his 26' CC instate ad of his bigger boat. I actually think it would have worked well.
More people don't do it because it's HARD here. I know people who go to Florida and said they can catch them with cracked crab in a hole like you're catching drum. Here it's one of the harder things I've fished for (not that I'm some accomplished angler by any means)
I thought about putting my hobbie PA on my cousins boat one year. But he took his 26' CC instate ad of his bigger boat. I actually think it would have worked well.
More people don't do it because it's HARD here. I know people who go to Florida and said they can catch them with cracked crab in a hole like you're catching drum. Here it's one of the harder things I've fished for (not that I'm some accomplished angler by any means)
Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:15 pm to voros79
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I am amazed that more people don't tarpon fish.
It's frickin' difficult, man.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:20 pm to KG6
would you say it's harder than catching swords?
Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:22 pm to PapaPogey
A sword can't even walk down the street in a Tarpon's neighborhood.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:26 pm to Barf
That is what I hear.Just shows how lucky we are to have the variety and numbers of fish.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:27 pm to Barf
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I'm a little confused on what you mean by light tackle. Calling a 12wt with a 60 pound leader light tackle is pretty ignorant but I digress.
I never commented on your particular tackle, nor do I care. It simply illustrates that the experience is the goal, not the well being of the fish.
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We willfully endanger every fish we hook, it's about how you conduct yourself after the fish is landed.
I don't see the difference. Tarpon are a sport fish with no table value. As you reiterated, targeting them is accepting that you having a good time is worth putting the fish at risk. Why then, if some die, does it matter whether they are tossed at the marina, eaten by a shark, or dumped overboard 100 miles out where they won't be seen?
Same goes for our resident billfish captain who is up on his soap box. He loves to talk down to the guys who tuna fish and enjoy it, but is perfectly fine with killing a 1000lb marlin, obviously so long as a chaplain is present to read it's last rights. You're killing the fish for pleasure. However you stroke your ego and sense of nobility afterwards should have no bearing on the conversation.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:27 pm to Barf
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Quick question, do you think that the recreational fisherman have any impact at all on our fishery? Or do you think the decline is a combination of things unrelated to the rec crowd? Meaning saltwater intrusion, loss of habitat, etcetera etcetera etcetera
I'm not a scientist and can't profess to know the answer to that. Based on what I do know, I think it's short sighted to say that recreational fishing has no impact on our fishery. That being said, I think the impact is negligible, and the benefits from having so many people involved in recreational fishing offset those negative impacts.
I think the "decline" in our fishery is a combination of things unrelated to recreational fishing.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:33 pm to Sparkplug#1
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Florida may have a higher mortality rate, but they aren't just killing them for a trophy.
They absolutely are. Hooking, tiring, and then allowing a fish to die or be eaten just so you could take a picture is no different than killing one so you could weigh it. It's hilarious to me that someone who harasses and kills billfish for pay can sit here and preach about how wrong it is to kill 8 fish for sport.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:01 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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They absolutely are. Hooking, tiring, and then allowing a fish to die or be eaten just so you could take a picture is no different than killing one so you could weigh it
The odds of survival are much greater when you don't haul them to the dock to hang for weight. I fail to see how you're drawing a parallel.
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