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Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:53 am to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23798 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:53 am to
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Why would you expect issues with 30K miles a year?


I'm not sure if serious for a work vehicle?

Who is going to drive a vehicle in a manner that has less wear and tear on a vehicle, a retiree that pus 8,000 miles a year or a guy using it for work driving 30k plus?

Call me crazy, but a work truck is a piece of equipment. Do Caterpillar tractor owners expect things to break from overuse or need routine repairs? What about lawn guys and their power equipment? If you use a piece of equipment for work there is hardly a such thing as babying it unless you over buy. Tournament fisherman use their boats harder than weekend guys. This is just life.

If all 4 ball joints wore out, that's more likely a cause from hard use than a likely issue. One wearing out is poor reliability. Very few people drive a vehicle the same today as they did 5 or 10 years ago. Comparing two vehicles over different years is almost useless. Jobs change, boats and equipment change, you move and drive different roads, etc.

Sometimes very little things over the course of 100k miles can very easily cause issues you wouldn't expect. Maybe the new Zero turn sat on the trailer different and that put more weight on the hitch. I have no idea.

I've never understood the idea that something should last forever without needing parts replaced. The way you don't replace things is by over building. Over building costs money.

See a Tundra. Fantastic truck, very reliable. Its overbuilt and gets poor gas mileage. If that's what works great. But dollar for dollar most guys are better off not pre paying for reliability by buying a less expensive truck that gets better gas mileage, and overall costs less money.

Most companies buy the vehicle that costs them the least over time. There's a reason why there's not very many Tundra's at big companies. Certainly some of that is Toyota rarely targets that market, but some of it also is the price long term doesn't make sense.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 8:58 am
Posted by Buster180
Member since Jun 2017
1455 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:21 pm to
He said that 99% of the miles were highway, which would indicate that he wasn't towing.

I could see your point if he had said that the miles were mostly off-road.
Posted by MTG325
Shreveport, LA.
Member since Oct 2011
476 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:32 pm to
FWIW, I bought a new 2013 Ram 1500 crew cab, it now has 145,000 miles, and a lot of those miles have been hauling a boat all around the south to various tournaments. Not one problem, I've changed the oil and tires, thats it. Swore I'd never buy a Ram before this one, its been bullet proof.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
8957 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:04 pm to
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I trust the engineers at Ford
that makes you an idiot, not a genius. The one make of vehicle that will absolutely never again have my name on a title is Ford. They build things in the most ridiculously complicated ways imaginable and been that way since the 70s at least.
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
4191 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:03 am to
I intentionally bought a 2018 RAM with the hemi to avoid first year production issues. I was a guinea pig for the Nissan Titan XD diesel and learned my expensive lesson. I really like the 2019 style and amenities but will wait for the gremlins to get figured out. The 2018 has been excellent and the best driver I have had in a truck. I was biased against Dodge and rightfully so from the 1980-2000 garbage. At least their pick ups now have really improved in quality. I have a friend with a 13 that has over a 100K miles now and no issues.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28469 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:06 am to
But the powertrain hasn't changed.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23798 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 7:14 am to
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But the powertrain hasn't changed.


Yeah I was gonna say, why are people so worried about cosmetic changes? What all was improved on the 2019? Was the frame and powertrain changed? I don’t think so. If so, there really shouldn’t be any major concerns? The biggest things to worry about is the first year of a new engine right?
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28469 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 7:17 am to
That's what I thought too. Look at Ford and the 10 spd transmission. I hear they have many issues.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
6146 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 7:20 am to
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1500 4x4 crew cab big horn
I bought this exact truck in October and absolutely love it so far. I have 10000 miles on it right now. Commuting to and from work (@20 miles) I am getting about 18 mpg. That is 12 highway miles and 8 city miles. Going 70 on the interstate I was getting around 21.5 mpg.

I have no clue about long term durability and never thought I would own a Ram, but hot damn I really like this truck.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28469 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 7:26 am to
How much did they take off sticker?
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
4191 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 7:27 am to
The Hemi and tranny are the same but they now have an e-torque system that is new. Additionally, some of the electronics are new. I am sure many are getting a great truck but first year anything tends to have issues. Remember the opti-pop and the HPDI nightmares. The Nissan XD I had gave me a lot of headaches. I will probably consider the new Ram down the road.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28469 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 7:28 am to
They already removed the Etorque from production.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
6146 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:00 am to
MSRP was 50420, I got it down to 41.5k after rebates and shite.

I went from a 2014 tacoma so the extra room is crazy. I can't even reach the back seat from the front seat.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 9:02 am
Posted by Buster180
Member since Jun 2017
1455 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:08 am to
We have the same truck and he asked my opinion.

Sorry a Ford engineer fricked your wife though.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
8957 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:37 am to
Been wrenching since the mid 80s and the one brand that has consistently enfuriated me with the ignorant way they build shite, Ford. Just the way it is
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15708 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:15 am to
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That's what I thought too. Look at Ford and the 10 spd transmission. I hear they have many issues.


Some of the 2018 F150 5.0 forum posters are reporting very excessive oil use. Some as high as 1 qt per 500-1000 miles. 2018 F150 5.0 Ford eliminated the steel cylinder liners and instead has sprayed plasma cylinders.

Plasma Transferred Wire Arc or PTWA, was first employed in-house by Ford in the small-batch 5.2L Voodoo V-8 installed in the ’16 Shelby GT350 Mustang.

Peter Dowding, chief engineer-Ford Global Powertrain, estimates PTWA cuts engine block weight about 8 lbs. (3.6 kg) by eliminating the need for thick steel liners in the aluminum block.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15646 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:40 am to
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sprayed plasma cylinders.



It ain't the technology, it's the execution.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
17409 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:42 am to
i just traded in my F150 for one and love it. the ride, the technology, and the interior is far and above the rest of the class.

a year ago i would have told anyone talking about a Ram that way to GTFO. but it's true, i'm sold.

Couple thing about the fords though. That ecoboost is the real deal. this hemi doesn't pin me to my seat like the Ecoboost did.
also i do trust ford more for reliability, but i'm willing to give the Ram a shot.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 11:46 am
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83774 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 6:47 pm to
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Couple thing about the fords though. That ecoboost is the real deal. this hemi doesn't pin me to my seat like the Ecoboost did.


I agree, the ecoboost was tempting for the power. I bought a Tundra mostly bc I was looking for reliability but i wish it felt peppier. The Tundra 5.7 is strong enough but it’s not winning any races against the Ram or Fords.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
137833 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 7:17 pm to
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Some of the 2018 F150 5.0 forum posters are reporting very excessive oil use. Some as high as 1 qt per 500-1000 miles. 2018 F150 5.0 Ford eliminated the steel cylinder liners and instead has sprayed plasma cylinders.

Plasma Transferred Wire Arc or PTWA, was first employed in-house by Ford in the small-batch 5.2L Voodoo V-8 installed in the ’16 Shelby GT350 Mustang.

Peter Dowding, chief engineer-Ford Global Powertrain, estimates PTWA cuts engine block weight about 8 lbs. (3.6 kg) by eliminating the need for thick steel liners in the aluminum block.


It also makes them sounds like a ticking time bomb. Lots of youtube videos of owners with brand new F150's that are having that issue. I am so glad I got mine before they made that change.
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