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re: Anybody do any point hunting?
Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:46 pm to Bigbee Hills
Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:46 pm to Bigbee Hills
Bigbee, Tibbee Creek is a great place to hunt for sharks teeth and arrowheads.
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:24 am to Bigbee Hills
After reading this thread it’s got me wanting to go out and look around. I’ve never found any arrowheads probably because I’ve never looked tho.. Have any of y’all ever looked on Thompson Creek in west Feliciana? We have land out that way and it’s bordered by Thompson and Mill creeks. Wonder if that would be a good place to start
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:36 am to Bigbee Hills
Here are a few points my dad picked up in the late 60’s that are hanging in his old office.
Thea are canon balls picked up in one of our fields in Lincoln county Tn.
Thea are canon balls picked up in one of our fields in Lincoln county Tn.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:42 am to duckdude
Duckdude
Do you think most any creek in Pearl River County with year round flow and gravel bars would produce artifacts? Haven’t gotten around to it yet but would love to find some artifacts in the creek on my land
Do you think most any creek in Pearl River County with year round flow and gravel bars would produce artifacts? Haven’t gotten around to it yet but would love to find some artifacts in the creek on my land
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:53 am to bayoudude
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:01 am to bayoudude
I have looked in a few like you describe. The answer is yes but most take a lot of looking before you find one. It's fun for me to do while my little ones play in the water, they get board with looking pretty fast.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:11 am to Bigbee Hills
Loved to hunt them. But we always called them arrow heads.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:46 pm to StarkvilleTiger
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have land out that way and it’s bordered by Thompson and Mill creeks. Wonder if that would be a good place to start
Find high ground near intersecting waterways and you will find native artifacts.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 1:40 pm to bayoudude
If there are gravel bars, and if there aren't folks walking them and picking off the exposed points, then I'll guarantee you there are artifacts on them. Take a shovel and a bucket for scooping water (if it's your land) and gently turn the rocks over and wash them off with the water. Some folks will take a shovel and drill holes in the blade so the water drains out and "pan" for points. Theres a whole other layer of rocks beneath what you can see. Pay special attention to any shards or remnants of a point. That'll give quick indication if you're on the right gravel bar or if you need to hop on up to the next one- but only after you've looked it over good. In time, you'll come to realize what spots warrant a more thorough search. If any ancient flintknapping sites are in the area adjacent to the creek, often times you'll know it by the bars that always produce points and those that don't: The erosion at those "point sources" is what makes those honey holes produce every time a big rain comes.
The ancient peoples never flintknapped in their camp for the obvious effect that thousands of little pieces of razor sharp lithic rock have on bare feet. The local lithic rock is abundant in creek beds, and so they'd go to the creek and find big chunks of suitable rock and then shear of "blanks" from those pieces (those pieces that blanks are made from are called "cores"), and they are recognizable by it being a larger piece of lithic rock, and of the same type of material that your points are, but they're jagged and have obviously have been altered by a man chipping away at them. Also, if there was a good place for getting those large rocks, but not so great for flintknapping, to circumvent the obvious problem with carrying large pieces of stone over land for very far, they'd bust up those big pieces into smaller more manageable ones.
Sometimes the lucky folks will find "caches" where they would shear off dozens of blanks (and for the REAL lucky ones, finished points) and then tuck them away in a safe spot to come back to later when they needed a new broadhead. Those flintknapping and cache sites adjacent to rivers, coupled with erosion of the soil that contains them, are why the good creeks are just that- good ones for finding points. Every creek that was around back then and that attracted game is gonna have points in it where the ol baw missed a deer (or wood buffalo or sabertooth cat for the real old points) and is there because he couldn't recover it and repurpose it. (Yes, they would pickup a point they found or had broken and re-work it for a useable point.)
If you see an adjacent natural ridge that is in the vicinity of the flowage, even better: That's probably where they'd camp when they roamed into and out of the area as nomadic people. It's not that the creeks with gravel bars and flash flooding etc., have any more points in them than a mud bottom perennial stream; it's simply a matter of putting the odds in your favor: a gravel bar and shallow, clear, easily flooded creek is going to expose an artifact while the muddy/deep ones are going to swallow them up (unless you're real serious and go diving for them, which people do.) Make no mistake: ancient peoples with a larger river nearby were always better off than those without. It's just that the odds are harder to find what they left behind. The same concept rings true in the "micro" sense of increasing your odds when hunting an individual spot: think like a rock that's designed to be aerodynamic as it is tumbling along in the current. It's amazing how many points I've found in the same 10 square foot area after the water has gone down.
And sometimes (especially starting off) it's easy to look too small and miss the obvious ones, or even the bigger artifacts like pottery shards or stone tools like mortars and pestels, drills, knives, nut cracking rocks, cores, etc. Look big and small.
And going in the early morning and late evening are the best times. It seems counterintuitive that darker conditions would make it easier to see a rock hidden among rocks, but most points, especially freshly exposed ones, have a patina about them that almost makes them glow. They definitely stick out more, and that bright, shiny patina is not marred by shadows produced during bright conditions.
You'd be hard pressed to find a single acre of land in the country that didn't have, at a minimum, some shards or busted up stuff on it, aka, artifacts (that assumes the acre in question was usable, accessible land for native Americans back then).
There are absolutely arrowheads on those bars. By the sheer number of arrowheads that are scattered across the landscape, it has to be an almost certainty, and the "stopping power" of a gravel bar makes the odds even better- let alone the fact that some native american at some point provided for himself and was there BECAUSE OF that river. He used to stomp around on that ground, and so your odds are better just because of it.
The ancient peoples never flintknapped in their camp for the obvious effect that thousands of little pieces of razor sharp lithic rock have on bare feet. The local lithic rock is abundant in creek beds, and so they'd go to the creek and find big chunks of suitable rock and then shear of "blanks" from those pieces (those pieces that blanks are made from are called "cores"), and they are recognizable by it being a larger piece of lithic rock, and of the same type of material that your points are, but they're jagged and have obviously have been altered by a man chipping away at them. Also, if there was a good place for getting those large rocks, but not so great for flintknapping, to circumvent the obvious problem with carrying large pieces of stone over land for very far, they'd bust up those big pieces into smaller more manageable ones.
Sometimes the lucky folks will find "caches" where they would shear off dozens of blanks (and for the REAL lucky ones, finished points) and then tuck them away in a safe spot to come back to later when they needed a new broadhead. Those flintknapping and cache sites adjacent to rivers, coupled with erosion of the soil that contains them, are why the good creeks are just that- good ones for finding points. Every creek that was around back then and that attracted game is gonna have points in it where the ol baw missed a deer (or wood buffalo or sabertooth cat for the real old points) and is there because he couldn't recover it and repurpose it. (Yes, they would pickup a point they found or had broken and re-work it for a useable point.)
If you see an adjacent natural ridge that is in the vicinity of the flowage, even better: That's probably where they'd camp when they roamed into and out of the area as nomadic people. It's not that the creeks with gravel bars and flash flooding etc., have any more points in them than a mud bottom perennial stream; it's simply a matter of putting the odds in your favor: a gravel bar and shallow, clear, easily flooded creek is going to expose an artifact while the muddy/deep ones are going to swallow them up (unless you're real serious and go diving for them, which people do.) Make no mistake: ancient peoples with a larger river nearby were always better off than those without. It's just that the odds are harder to find what they left behind. The same concept rings true in the "micro" sense of increasing your odds when hunting an individual spot: think like a rock that's designed to be aerodynamic as it is tumbling along in the current. It's amazing how many points I've found in the same 10 square foot area after the water has gone down.
And sometimes (especially starting off) it's easy to look too small and miss the obvious ones, or even the bigger artifacts like pottery shards or stone tools like mortars and pestels, drills, knives, nut cracking rocks, cores, etc. Look big and small.
And going in the early morning and late evening are the best times. It seems counterintuitive that darker conditions would make it easier to see a rock hidden among rocks, but most points, especially freshly exposed ones, have a patina about them that almost makes them glow. They definitely stick out more, and that bright, shiny patina is not marred by shadows produced during bright conditions.
You'd be hard pressed to find a single acre of land in the country that didn't have, at a minimum, some shards or busted up stuff on it, aka, artifacts (that assumes the acre in question was usable, accessible land for native Americans back then).
There are absolutely arrowheads on those bars. By the sheer number of arrowheads that are scattered across the landscape, it has to be an almost certainty, and the "stopping power" of a gravel bar makes the odds even better- let alone the fact that some native american at some point provided for himself and was there BECAUSE OF that river. He used to stomp around on that ground, and so your odds are better just because of it.
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