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Posted on 5/4/12 at 2:57 pm to KingRanch
quote:No such thing. I cannot believe you people put any significance at all on what that trigger is doing to the striker. So what? It's totally unimportant.
1.5 if anything
Posted on 5/4/12 at 2:58 pm to AlxTgr
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I hate misinformation. There are requirements for DAO, and people are fudging the definition to be able to use Glocks
I hear ya, but I don't agree with ya.
Wiki puts the glock in a category it calls "pre-set" action. Not in single, double, or sa/da. I agree. It belongs in neither the single action or double action category. By definition it is neither.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 2:59 pm to AlxTgr
You've said the new plastic guns don't apply to the current terminology, it's now called a 1.5 action 
Posted on 5/4/12 at 3:02 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:From Wiki:
Wiki puts the glock in a category it calls "pre-set" action. Not in single, double, or sa/da. I agree. It belongs in neither the single action or double action category. By definition it is neither.
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Glock and Kahr semi-automatic pistols are not DA (or DAO) pistols because the striker is "cocked" to an intermediate position by the operation of the slide and they cannot be re-activated by pulling the trigger a second time.
It's single. It acts in every way like all other singles.
Here's what's funny. It acts exactly like an XD. Everyone says the XD is single. This is hilarious.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 3:05 pm to AlxTgr
Nor does wiki call it a single action.
The argument is pointless. It is neither double nor single action.
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Single-action A single-action (SA) trigger performs the single action of releasing the hammer or striker to discharge the firearm each time the trigger is pulled.[1] Almost all rifles and shotguns use this type of trigger.[1] Single-action semi-automatic pistols require that the hammer be cocked before the first round can be fired, although most designs cock the hammer as part of the loading process (e.g., the act of inserting the magazine and operating the slide mechanism to chamber the first round also cocks the hammer or striker into the ready-to-fire position).[2] Once the first round is fired, the automatic movement (recoil) of the slide cocks the hammer for each subsequent shot. The pistol, once cocked, can be fired by pulling the trigger once for each shot until the magazine is empty. The M1911 and Browning Hi-Power are single-action pistols that function in this manner.[2] Single-action revolvers require the hammer to be cocked by hand every time the weapon is fired. [edit]
Double-action A double-action, also known as double action only (DAO) to prevent confusion with DA/SA designs, is similar to a DA revolver trigger mechanism. The trigger both cocks and releases the hammer. However there is no single action function. A good example of this action is the Sig Sauer DAK trigger. For semi-automatic pistols with a traditional hammer (that employ only the double action function of the trigger), the hammer will return to its decocked position after each shot. Subsequent shots require the double action trigger firing sequence. For striker-fired pistols such as the Taurus 24/7, the striker will remain in the rest position through the entire reloading cycle. This term applies mostly to semi-automatic handguns; however, the term can also apply to some revolvers such as the Smith & Wesson Centennial, the Type 26 Revolver, and the Enfield No. 2 Mk I revolvers, in which there is no external hammer spur. Glock and Kahr semi-automatic pistols are not DA (or DAO) pistols because the striker is "cocked" to an intermediate position by the operation of the slide and they cannot be re-activated by pulling the trigger a second time. [edit
]Double-action/single-action A double-action/single-action (DA/SA) firearm combines the features of both mechanisms. Often called traditional double action, these terms apply almost exclusively to semi-automatic handguns. The function of this trigger mechanism is identical to a DA revolver. However, the firing mechanism automatically cocks the hammer or striker after the gun is fired. This mechanism will cock and release the hammer when the hammer is in the down position, but, on each subsequent shot, the trigger will function as a single action. The Mateba Autorevolver is a semi-automatic revolver that functions on a DA/SA system. The Beretta 92 is a good example of a DA/SA semi-automatic pistol. On many DA/SA pistols (including the Beretta), there is the option to cock the hammer before the first shot is fired. This removes the heavy pull of the double-action. Also, there is often a de-cocker to return the pistol to double-action. A second distinct type is that used by the majority of double-action revolvers, where the weapon can be fired in either double-action mode by pulling the trigger, or single-action mode by cocking the hammer manually before firing. This is distinct from double-action only, since the weapon does not have to be fired in double-action mode, for example, the Colt Python
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Pre-set strikers and hammers apply only to semi-automatic handguns. Upon firing a cartridge or loading the chamber, the hammer or striker will rest in a partially cocked position. The trigger serves the function of completing the cocking cycle and then releasing the striker or hammer. While technically two actions, it differs from a double-action trigger in that the trigger is not capable of fully cocking the striker or hammer. It differs from single action in that if the striker or hammer were to release, it would generally not be capable of igniting the primer. Examples of pre-set strikers are the Glock, Smith and Wesson M&P, Kahr Arms, and Ruger SR series pistols. Examples of pre-set hammers are the Kel-Tec P-32 and Ruger LCP pistols.
The argument is pointless. It is neither double nor single action.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 3:12 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Exactly. Clearly single action. 
Posted on 5/4/12 at 3:14 pm to AlxTgr
Posted on 5/4/12 at 3:18 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
What does hickok45 call them?
Posted on 5/4/12 at 3:19 pm to KingRanch
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What does hickok45 call them?
Holy, amazing, perfect, sexy, fap-worthy, etc
Don't think he really gives a damn what it's called
Posted on 5/4/12 at 3:19 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I knew that
Posted on 5/4/12 at 3:21 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Address the revolver hypo youtubeboy. Think for yourself a bit.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 3:23 pm to AlxTgr
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Address the revolver hypo youtubeboy
I'd call it broke
If that was all it ever did, it would be a single action. The trigger only performs one action. The glock does not fit this category though, because when in battery the trigger performs two actions. If you insist on looking at it ONLY from the standpoint of what happens when you pull the trigger while the striker is down, it's single action. If you look at it ONLY from the standpoint of what it does in battery, it's a double action. If you look at both, it is neither.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 3:47 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Progress
Posted on 5/4/12 at 4:01 pm to AlxTgr
Sorry man. My blackhawk trigger and a glock trigger do not function the same way.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 4:15 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
No shite
Posted on 5/4/12 at 4:33 pm to AlxTgr
AlxTgr
You still stirring shite here or have you learnt them anything
You still stirring shite here or have you learnt them anything
Posted on 5/4/12 at 4:38 pm to Duckman13
Duckman13
Look at the shite you stirred up
You'll probably change your mind on getting a handgun after this is all over
quote:
Just wanted to get some of yall's opinions on buying a new handgun.
Look at the shite you stirred up
You'll probably change your mind on getting a handgun after this is all over
Posted on 5/4/12 at 4:40 pm to Nascar Fan
quote:I've learnt them a lot. They are still fuming mad over the fact that their argument is a loser. I get it. Most of my cases are losers
You still stirring shite here or have you learnt them anything
Posted on 5/4/12 at 5:03 pm to AlxTgr
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