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Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:28 pm to tx_cajun
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you still have to do a 4473 with a NFA purchase. All the trust does is bypass the CLO and fingerprints
Yeah - this is a red herring, all the way around. They're just going to try to kill NFA trusts now. They killed kitchen table dealers in the 90s, which led, indirectly, to the rise of the unlicensed classified ad/gun show dealers that they now want to bring back into FFL status. Trusts have become popular, particularly for family/group ownership of SBRs and suppressors (mostly, I doubt those 90,000 are all for machineguns, a highly premium item, and SBS, which are a mere fraction of the SBR and suppressor community) - those weapons aren't used in crime, but they want to make them seem more suspicious.
And now they want to carve out a very specific exception to HIPAA - in particular, one that specifically violates physician/patient confidentiality.
Just sad all the way around.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:35 pm to bbvdd
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So, I wonder what happens with me since I have a suppressor in jail right now with a Trust?
This. I've already put half down on mine and I'm mailing the form 4/check tomorrow. You know those bastards will cash the check regardless
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:49 pm to tx_cajun
This article says that there may be future restrictions on those receiving Social Security Benefits from purchasing.
LINK
Would that be those receiving SS based on mental health issues?
I am thinking that they want to call one a dealer if they buy a gun just to hold and resell at a profit, like many do during gun scares.
LINK
Would that be those receiving SS based on mental health issues?
I am thinking that they want to call one a dealer if they buy a gun just to hold and resell at a profit, like many do during gun scares.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:39 pm to tx_cajun
ATF released final ruling on 41P. The main takeaways are that in 180 days from today
When submitting a new form 1 or form 4:
ALL members of a trust must have fingerprints and photos included on a special form that will be sent to the Chief LEO in their area.
Does Not require sign off by chief local LEO, it's more of a notification and gives the LEO everyone on trust's info so they can run a background check.
LINK
When submitting a new form 1 or form 4:
ALL members of a trust must have fingerprints and photos included on a special form that will be sent to the Chief LEO in their area.
Does Not require sign off by chief local LEO, it's more of a notification and gives the LEO everyone on trust's info so they can run a background check.
LINK
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:44 pm to 03GeeTee
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180 days from today
180 days from publishing in the Registry, which is not what was released tonight. No clue how long that will take.
what a giant pain in the arse. buy all you can
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:50 pm to Carson123987
I can't even imagine how many form 1s and form 4s have been submitted the past few days. The wait time is probably at least 6 months long at this point.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:52 pm to 03GeeTee
ordering a Noveske Gen III Matched Receiver set to F1 tomorrow 
Going to grab a few cans too
Going to grab a few cans too Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:02 pm to Carson123987
I really need an Omega but this kinda shite always happens when I have no money.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:03 pm to 03GeeTee
we only require half down
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:11 pm to Carson123987
Can anyone say with certainty what the affect on NFA items will be by this? TIA
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:14 pm to TigernMS12
what GeeTee said above
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:15 pm to TigernMS12
Far to early to know. We don't even know if pending forms will be approved or denied. I imagine we will know this week though.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:22 pm to 03GeeTee
Only responsible parties need prints and pictures. That could mean just the settlor, or all trustees, we don't know yet. Almost for sure does not include the beneficiary or other non trustees.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:26 pm to Carson123987
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Carson123987
You working tomorrow? Going to buy another Omega and another 45 can
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:27 pm to lsufan1971
Department response, page 198. Pending forms will be approved!
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:45 pm to lsufan1971
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You working tomorrow? Going to buy another Omega and another 45 can
All omegas are committed. I'll be there at 11
Posted on 1/5/16 at 12:09 am to 03GeeTee
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I can't even imagine how many form 1s and form 4s have been submitted the past few days. The wait time is probably at least 6 months long at this point.
I'm waiting on them to process a form 3 just so I can file the form 4 with my trust. Thoughts on the likelihood that I'll actually get my suppressor without pic and prints?
Posted on 1/5/16 at 12:15 am to SpeckledTiger
If it goes pending before the 180 days expire, it will fall into the current laws and regulations. Now, it may take 3 years to get approved, but it will.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 12:32 am to Ice Cream Sammich
Is there a chance this whole new set of trust rules can be blocked by some other means?
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