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Posted on 12/26/24 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 4:48 pm to
Perhaps you would like to explain to the class how an unloaded gun is more dangerous than a loaded one?
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 4:59 pm to
An unloaded gun is a fancy paperweight or an expensive hammer.

Perhaps you would like to explain to the class how an unloaded firearm functions?

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 7:07 pm to
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An unloaded gun is a fancy paperweight


So, far safer than a loaded one you say?
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 7:21 pm to
So just to make sure I understand what you are saying, you don’t believe there should be any loaded guns in buildings? That seems to be what you are arguing.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:03 pm to
No. I said an unloaded gun is safer than a loaded one.
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:40 pm to
I am big on safety.

Why do you think law enforcement doesn’t carry their sidearms unloaded? It would be safer wouldn’t it?

I wonder why they carry their guns loaded? Surely there is a reason.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:42 pm to
CaptDalton just has the tard genes and can’t process how to load a weapon by putting a magazine in and charging it….fast enough to kill the boogie man

He needs things simplified. You should really just look into a rigging your home with claymores.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:44 pm to
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wonder why they carry their guns loaded? Surely there is a reason.



I’m not law enforcement. I live in a safe neighborhood. I don’t run into the same folks that law enforcement officers do.

I have three young boys. Don’t need a loaded weapon to defend them when one is literally seconds away from being fully loaded and operational.

What a dumb fricking comparison
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:49 pm to
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I have a loaded pistol pointed at my twig n berries right now


Oh… So you think you are responsible enough to carry a loaded gun? But others aren’t?

Be consistent.

You should unload your gun. Especially since it is pointed at your junk.

















Have you.unloaded your gun? Why not?
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:56 pm to
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CaptDalton just has the tard genes and can’t process how to load a weapon by putting a magazine in and charging it….fast enough to kill the boogie man


When shite goes sideways, it usually goes sideways fast. You don’t get to call timeout.

It seems you think you know how it will go, but it likely won’t go how you think it will.

Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:15 pm to
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It seems you think you know how it will go, but it likely won’t go how you think it will.


It likely won’t happen at all.

Try reading the entire thread before killing it with your stupidity next time.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:43 pm to
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Be consistent.


I am. You're the one who came in like a seagul squawking and shitting on everything. An empty gun is not a paperweight. You can't insert a magazine into a paperweight smash the bolt release and jihad away.

I'm comfortable having a particular loaded gun that's inside of a holster and firmly attached to me. Just like im comfortable having a loaded rifle in my hands. I'm not comfortable leaving a loaded gun unattended. But that's just me.

The point that you simpletons can't wrap your brains around is that you cannot simultaneously be serious about gun safety and be dependent on passive safeguards from negligent discharge. If the name of the game is mitigating risks and you don't live in a war zone, the safest way to store a gun is unloaded. The gun is going to get handled by you far more often than it will be employed in a defensive manner, and handling it loaded is more dangerous than handling it unloaded.

I'm not trying to preach to you people. Do you. Just don't get lulled into complacency because nothing bad ever happened to you. I had an AD once. Had it happened under different circumstances, it could have been bad. Oh, it won't happen to you? Well, it's about as likely as you needing to defend yourself with a gun AND the time it would take to load it being the delta between living and dying. Don't wear orange because nobody else is in those woods? See OP. Don't unload shotgun before putting it down? See football player story.

The gun nuts don't do themselves any favors on the political spectrum by not self-policing stuff like this.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:10 pm to
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It seems you think you know how it will go, but it likely won’t go how you think it will.



It’s not likely it will happen at all. An accidental discharge or a child getting ahold of your weapon is way more likely than the scenario you’re imagining
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29663 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:12 pm to
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You and all who you associate with are immune to gravity and Murphy?


You only buy handguns with safeties don't you.

quote:

I doubt you are an elite athlete


Not overly fast, coordinated, or anything else outstanding for that matter. And the only thing I ever competed in were strength sports

I fail to see what any of that has to do with not having your finger on the trigger and pointing the gun where it shouldn't be pointed.


Ironically, when I was 9 or 10 I did fall down an entire flight of steps while carrying a 20 gauge. Kept my hands on the gun. Tucked and rolled as best as possible, and certainly didn't move my hands on the firearm mid fall.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:34 pm to
If I was only worried about me I would think like you. But I have other concerns. My kids don’t have 35 years of experience with guns. Considering she’s 4 years old. There’s just not a scenario that’s more dangerous than a loaded gun in my house.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110030 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:36 pm to
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Shooter had license but no tags on him
why does this matter now? Your phone is your tag
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:26 am to
My home defense guns are loaded pistols, but they’re kept in pistol safes. With a swipe of my fingerprint or quick code I can access them. No way am I leaving loaded pistols out. Pistol safes are so inexpensive I don’t understand why anyone would not have one.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 3:52 am to
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These are all great rules except you shouldn’t have a loaded weapon in your house.

Why do you need loaded guns in the house?


An unloaded gun in a house is useless in self defense. You have turned a weapon that could save your life or others lives into a brick. My pistol stays loaded.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
21650 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 4:26 am to
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The gun nuts don't do themselves any favors on the political spectrum by not self-policing stuff like this.


If I am a gun nut for believing that a self defense firearm should be loaded, then I guess I am a gun nut.

There is a difference between having respect for firearms and being scared of firearms. Most kids used to be taught his. All should be. It is clear some here were not. Some here are terrified. Not everyone should own a firearm. The levee is probably one. He also needs to wander over to the SECrant and work on his name calling skills.

For the people who say it is unlikely to happen, the odds are against it. But I bet the same people who are arguing this have insurance for a number of scenarios that are unlikely to happen. Many people try to be prepared for the unexpected. And if anything ever does happen where you need a gun it could very possibly happen in seconds. In such case calmly explain to them that you need to go get your gun out of the safe and load it. Surely they will understand.

To bring it full circle back to the original story, the shooting happened because an idiot shot at a target they had clearly not identified. Based on this thread it seems some here believe it was the guns fault.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
21650 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 4:56 am to
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No. I said an unloaded gun is safer than a loaded one.


No, earlier you typed.

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Nobody who was so serious about safety would have a loaded gun in their house


Then you posed this.

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I have a loaded pistol pointed at my twig n berries right now


That doesn’t seem to abide by the standard gun safety rule of don’t point a gun at simething you don’t want to destroy. You seem to be all over the place. What exactly are you trying to articulate?
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