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Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:56 am to PapaPogey
I think he has a legitimate gripe here and probably pointing out what others are thinking as well
The whole wahoo thing was not a legitimate gripe though. He was in the wrong there
The whole wahoo thing was not a legitimate gripe though. He was in the wrong there
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:59 am to Ron Cheramie
Might be legitimate, who knows, but going to social media to complain about it seems a little much. Why is nobody else complaining?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:59 am to PapaPogey
JJ wasn't the only one saying something about it from what I heard. I know if I had all the money invested like these guys do, I would put up a fight too. Extra $100k on the line is big deal.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:02 am to PapaPogey
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Why is nobody else complaining?
because it's the same group of sports who fish every gulf coast billfish tournament and no one wants to turn into the black sheep of the family. JJ, however, doesn't give two fricks about who does or doesn't like him
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:03 am to PapaPogey
quote:I believe he had the runner up fish
Why is nobody else complaining?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:03 am to headedwest21
You don't think the tournament understands that? It's not some back yard bass fishing tournament, these guys know what they're doing and rules are rules. JJ whined about the fishing being mutilated, then realized that the rule book said it wasn't so he switched to calling out how it got mutilated. He's stretching right here IMO.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:04 am to PapaPogey
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Why is nobody else complaining?
He is probably has the most to gain by that fish being disqualified. Although moving from second to first would be a nice bump.
Also, he seems to be way more active in social media than anyone else so his viewpoints get put on the internet rather than just dock talk.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:04 am to xenon16
He placed 4th, would have been 3rd in his scenario
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:06 am to Hermit Crab
Disqualified for what though is my point? The rule books said it's not a mutilated fish which is why it won.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:08 am to PapaPogey
quote:
The rule books said it's not a mutilated fish which is why it won.
what rule book?
quote:
IGFA
The following situations will disqualify a catch:
2. Mutilation to the fish, prior to landing or boating the catch, caused by sharks, other fish, mammals, or propellers that remove or penetrate the flesh.
it's iffy
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:09 am to redneck
I think JJ has a very good point. I'd also be willing to bet that if one of the other large sportfishers was in JJs shoes, the decision would have been different.
This is good ol' boy written all over it.
Tabor has upset the Apple Cart in northern gulf tourneys for years. He fished center consoles and routinely beats professional captains and crews on multi-million dollar boats.
He's changed the dynamic and is not afraid to voice his displeasure when he feels wronged.
He lost $100k over this fish and decision. I'm sure he does well, but he's not a multimillionaire like most of these boat owners he competes against. That's a lot of money to lose out on what has in the past been an auto DQ.
This is good ol' boy written all over it.
Tabor has upset the Apple Cart in northern gulf tourneys for years. He fished center consoles and routinely beats professional captains and crews on multi-million dollar boats.
He's changed the dynamic and is not afraid to voice his displeasure when he feels wronged.
He lost $100k over this fish and decision. I'm sure he does well, but he's not a multimillionaire like most of these boat owners he competes against. That's a lot of money to lose out on what has in the past been an auto DQ.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:09 am to PapaPogey
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Disqualified for what though is my point? The rule books said it's not a mutilated fish which is why it won.
And why does it matter if the fish got hit by the prop? it was a kill fish and likely already gaffed or dead when it hit it. The guys weren't trying to use their $$$ props to kill the fish and gain any sort of advantage.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:10 am to Hermit Crab
Exactly, so I'm not sure what point he's trying to prove. Does he think the fish is mutilated or does he think they cheated? Take your pick JJ
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 11:11 am
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:11 am to PapaPogey
I think a Billfish without its bill due to landing is a multilated fish.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:14 am to DeltaDoc
So you're telling me the MGBFC committee just said aww frick it we'll let this one slide?
ETA: if that's truly the case than its fricked up. I just don't like how JJ went about it by first calling out the tournament and then calling out the angler/captain.
ETA: if that's truly the case than its fricked up. I just don't like how JJ went about it by first calling out the tournament and then calling out the angler/captain.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 11:16 am
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:18 am to DeltaDoc
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I think a Billfish without its bill due to landing is a multilated fish.
I disagree, and the atlantic coast captains that I have asked disagree as well.
regarding the igfa rules, would a bill be considered "flesh"
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:20 am to Hermit Crab
Has a broken bill been DQd in the past?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:21 am to PapaPogey
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So you're telling me the MGBFC committee just said aww frick it we'll let this one slide?
the rules say "flesh". The face is pretty fricked up from the prop but unless a biologist is on site it is a judgement decision based on where exactly the "flesh" starts
also, according to JJ, other captains were told by the Bobby Carter that it was weighed "in the heat of the moment"
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:23 am to redneck
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also, according to JJ, other captains were told by the Bobby Carter that it was weighed "in the heat of the moment"
So they can't DQ the fish after the weigh in?
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