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re: Open carrying a machine gun
Posted on 6/5/13 at 4:49 am to faxis
Posted on 6/5/13 at 4:49 am to faxis
I think I said somewhere that its their right to do it. I know it isn't illegal.
In cool with them being questioned. If Al Jihad Akbar Kabullabob was walking through the mall with a loaded legally owned AK on his back would you be ok with him being questioned?
Do suspicious (and stupid) shite and you're going to be checked. Walking around with a loaded rifle on your back and you're being suspicious and stupid. I'm cool with them being checked for legal ownership and such. We probably have different definitions of harassed.
In cool with them being questioned. If Al Jihad Akbar Kabullabob was walking through the mall with a loaded legally owned AK on his back would you be ok with him being questioned?
Do suspicious (and stupid) shite and you're going to be checked. Walking around with a loaded rifle on your back and you're being suspicious and stupid. I'm cool with them being checked for legal ownership and such. We probably have different definitions of harassed.
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 4:55 am
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 6:40 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I agree with you
Posted on 6/5/13 at 6:43 am to Boats n Hose
Where did the official academy thread go?
/hijack
/hijack
Posted on 6/5/13 at 7:21 am to Boats n Hose
I just don't think it's a good idea just because its a right.
You're drawing attention to it and will get that right revoked because you were exercising it at a time when it was completely stupid to do it.
Grammar edit
You're drawing attention to it and will get that right revoked because you were exercising it at a time when it was completely stupid to do it.
Grammar edit
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 7:28 am
Posted on 6/5/13 at 7:25 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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You're drawing attention to it and will get that right revoked because you were exercising it at a time where it was completely stupid to do it.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 9:49 am to Nascar Fan
for anyone to feel ashamed different or stupid or that if they chose to do the same would be or should expect to be harassed or questioned or hope that those that do are questioned...then a lot more has been lost on this subject than our freedoms...
I guess it's already too late for some...
I guess it's already too late for some...
Posted on 6/5/13 at 10:00 am to Pepperidge
Do you think boosie or al jihad abul kablamabob should be able to carry an AK with a full drum mag down the road over his shoulder without being asked what he's doing to see if he even has an alibis or if he can legally have a gun?
Carry a gun openly and you are opening yourself to questioning and probably being the first guy shot if the SHTF anyway.
Carry a gun openly and you are opening yourself to questioning and probably being the first guy shot if the SHTF anyway.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 10:19 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Do you think boosie or al jihad abul kablamabob should be able to carry an AK with a full drum mag down the road over his shoulder without being asked what he's doing to see if he even has an alibis or if he can legally have a gun?
I doubt that situation would ever manifest itself though.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 10:23 am to Pepperidge
quote:When did I ever say this?
you are right...only police should be allowed to carry any weapon openly...they are much better than the rest of us lowly subjects...
quote:Being a leo has nothing to do with me thinking someone is a dork and starving for attention
I'm glad my brother and all the rest of the LEO's I know don't feel the same way you do...
Posted on 6/5/13 at 10:43 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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When did I ever say this?
I have no idea where that came from.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 11:53 am to bapple
That's not the question.
It's his right as well no matter who "he" is provided he's a US non criminal citizen. Should he be able to do it without being questioned?
Should a felon be able to do it with a stolen gun without being questioned? We can't selectively apply this.
Does open carrying a gun give you immunity from being questioned by police?
It's his right as well no matter who "he" is provided he's a US non criminal citizen. Should he be able to do it without being questioned?
Should a felon be able to do it with a stolen gun without being questioned? We can't selectively apply this.
Does open carrying a gun give you immunity from being questioned by police?
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 11:55 am
Posted on 6/5/13 at 12:09 pm to bapple
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Or a tit-willow. I don't really care. Like I said, just be ready to not be taken as seriously.
But you seem to care, otherwise you wouldn't have posted your correction.
Get this, people who get all bent out of shape over stupid shite like clip/detachable magazine, automatic/semi-automatic handgun, assault rifle/semi-automatic carbine rifle designations, are likely to not be taken seriously.
It just comes off like a fricking grammar Nazi, most reasonable people understand the meaning through context.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 2:22 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
I don't feel someone open carrying is starving for attention...if a LEO who feels they shouldn't be doing this only shows that they enjoy their power to do so and others shouldn't be empowered to do so and should be questioned at all costs...or harassed enough that the general public won't decide that this should be the norm...
I do disagree with the guys making a video to show off or pwn a LEO if they were confronted...but they shouldn't be confronted in the first place...so no video would have ever been made...
FWIW not many a LEO will admit it, but there is a large percentage that feel empowered and entitled to be the only ones with their powers...
you need only look at the ones that carried out the orders to disarm citizens during Katrina to see examples of this...
If you don't mind my asking..Are you an OathKeeper?
ETA added link
I do disagree with the guys making a video to show off or pwn a LEO if they were confronted...but they shouldn't be confronted in the first place...so no video would have ever been made...
FWIW not many a LEO will admit it, but there is a large percentage that feel empowered and entitled to be the only ones with their powers...
you need only look at the ones that carried out the orders to disarm citizens during Katrina to see examples of this...
If you don't mind my asking..Are you an OathKeeper?
ETA added link
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 6/5/13 at 2:30 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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But you seem to care, otherwise you wouldn't have posted your correction.
I care enough to correct him once at least. True.
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Get this, people who get all bent out of shape over stupid shite like clip/detachable magazine, automatic/semi-automatic handgun, assault rifle/semi-automatic carbine rifle designations, are likely to not be taken seriously.
When it comes to talking about firearms, I disagree with you pretty strongly. It's pretty easy to tell someone who's well-versed versus someone who isn't by them using "clip" or "assault rifle." Like I said before, it's a simple litmus test. If the words leave his or her mouth, chances are, this individual as not that educated about firearms. A person calling a hunting rifle a "sniper rifle" would be a perfect example.
But I will say there are always exceptions - always. In the grand scheme of things, I doubt you'd find a competition shooter telling people he shoots 30 round "clips" from his AR15 "assault rifle" though.
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It just comes off like a fricking grammar Nazi, most reasonable people understand the meaning through context.
I've calmed down on the grammar policing unless I'm just poking fun. When talking about shooting, I usually don't correct as much in person unless this individual says something like "clip" 2 or 3 times. It makes the person seem ignorant if they use the wrong wording and I want to try to prevent the spread of wrong information.
Like I said before, getting the right information out is better than having people misuse a word so much that the definition changes.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 2:41 pm to bapple
I call em clips in all casual conversations, just like I say y'all and ain't.
:coco2:
:coco2:
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:20 pm to Pepperidge
quote:Someone open carrying an AR style rifle is.
don't feel someone open carrying is starving for attention
quote:
.if a LEO who feels they shouldn't be doing this
As a person I feel they shouldnt be doing this. As a leo I understand they have the right to
quote:Your words, not mine
should be questioned at all costs
quote:I disagree. I have a duty to investigate a citizens complaint to a certain degree.
but they shouldn't be confronted in the first place
quote:I know you want this to be the normal sentiment of leo so you can bitch about your rights being infringed upon but as a person and someone who works in law enforcement I applaud anyone who takes certain steps to prevent themselves and other from becoming a victim ( such as being armed). I also think some small dicked law student who has to walk around with an AR style rifle for attention and to prove a point should be laughed at, not feared.
but there is a large percentage that feel empowered and entitled to be the only ones with their powers
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:20 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I call em clips in all casual conversations, just like I say y'all and ain't.
quote:
But I will say there are always exceptions - always
You are part of that exception minority.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:28 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
If in gonna rob a place, the guy toting an AR is catching the first bullet.
Its stupid on so many levels.
Its stupid on so many levels.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:31 pm to bapple
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When it comes to talking about firearms, I disagree with you pretty strongly. It's pretty easy to tell someone who's well-versed versus someone who isn't by them using "clip" or "assault rifle."
I disagree with you pretty strongly here.
I've known old-timers that have never fired anything but shotguns that know more about shooting than I ever will - and wouldn't know a AK from an AR. But I would never disrespect them so much as to try to correct them on some technicality such as referring to a model 70 as a 'sniper rifle'. Wait a minute, is a model 70 a hunting rifle or a sniper rifle...?
I guess it just depends on the target.
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Like I said before, it's a simple litmus test.
That's my point, frick people and their goddam litmus tests. It tells you next to nothing about the person, yet you will draw conclusions and rush to judgments.
And the fact of the matter is that if the law defines an 'assault rifle' as a large capacity, semi-auto, medium caliber carbine rifle, then that's what it is. And if they say it's illegal, no matter how much you cry about how your rifle isn't an 'assault rifle' because it doesn't have a full auto setting, it won't matter. It would still be illegal.
It doesn't matter what the Germans called the MP 44. You see, any kid can read up on guns and be able to recite all the history and specifications in the world, and know a mag from a clip, but that doesn't really make them knowledgeable about guns. In my mind it's about putting lead downrange that makes you knowledgeable about guns, not what you've read in books. All these petty corrections just come off as pretentious.
All that said, I generally appreciate your posts and find them informative.
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:38 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I've known old-timers
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But I would never disrespect them so much as to try to correct them on some technicality such as referring to a model 70 as a 'sniper rifle'.
I never said I would find some hardened 90 year old war vet and correct his slang terminology.
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Wait a minute, is a model 70 a hunting rifle or a sniper rifle...?
That would depend on what it is used for. Anyone can trick out their favorite deer rifle and to someone unformed it may have the appearance of a "sniper rifle" without actually being one.
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It tells you next to nothing about the person, yet you will draw conclusions and rush to judgments.
I agree to a certain degree here. The way a person dresses, talks, acts, and generally carries his or her self is usually a pretty good indicator of conclusions to be drawn about said person.
But I will agree that it's not an end-all, be-all. Nothing ever is.
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And if they say it's illegal, no matter how much you cry about how your rifle isn't an 'assault rifle' because it doesn't have a full auto setting, it won't matter.
I agree. But using the term "assault rifle" still makes the uninformed draw the conclusion that it can act as a machine gun. That's the problem, although it seems utterly unfixable.
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All these petty corrections just come off as pretentious.
Maybe so, but I bet if you walk into a gun store and use the slang terms, the person is less likely to take you seriously. That's all I'm trying to point out, hence my referring to a litmus test. To the salesman, it wouldn't matter if the guy has slain more Japs than he can count. He still comes off as ignorant on a surface level.
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All that said, I generally appreciate your posts and find them informative.
Thank you.
Nothing wrong with a little intense discussion. Nothing personal about it...
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