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re: Selling timber in Webster Parish

Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:55 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
92440 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:55 am to
Thank you baws!!

Especially white bear who went way above and beyond to correct my math (100 acres) and make a rough determination of what % is timber vs hay pasture and give me some names and advice.

I owe him a round of beers and who says TD is full of degenerates?
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1583 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 2:18 pm to
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My advise ask the timber company for a load out sheet each day and have game cams set up to see if the number of loads on the daily load out sheets matches the actually amount of loads going out (of course you’ll have to have them only using one drive in and out)

Also put it in the contract with the timber company that they will put the landing, all trails used by skidder, etc…. Back to precut condition or as close as possible.



This is sound advice. Timber companies have been known to "accidentally" log loads to their own property they happen to be cutting simultaneously.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
92440 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:03 pm to
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Timber companies have been known to "accidentally" log loads to their own property they happen to be cutting simultaneously.


and on the flip side of the coin, propane companies use GPS on their vehicles so they don't accidently squirt a little propane into a tank not on their schedule and to keep track of the movement of their fleet in excruciating detail. likewise 18 wheelers are monitored 24/7 by the trucking companies.

sounds like there's no incentive to do the same for trucks hauling private landowner timber.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 3:04 pm
Posted by White Bear
Deer-Thirty
Member since Jul 2014
17390 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20690 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:18 pm to
Is this pine or hardwood? That is a lot more than what I have heard others getting for timber in LA and MS.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20690 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:45 pm to
Bump to see if I can get an answer to my question.

TIA
Posted by Palo Gaucho
Benton
Member since Jul 2013
3432 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:17 am to
I'd hold off selling until the new mills at Ada and Plain Dealing get going. Both should be up and running by Q3.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2319 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:43 am to
Seems like hdwd if they’re sustainably thinning every 10 yrs. And $1k/ac doesn’t seem too far out of bounds for decent stuff. I hunt a tract in SW MS that the owner does this and I’m fairly confident $1k/ac has been a reasonable estimate of their proceeds. Managed hardwoods, predominantly CBO, productive site. Now they’re getting to a point where poorer regen may start becoming an issue if they don’t take care of some undesirables like hornbeam, elm, and gum.

The 1998 sale reference was back when timber was $$$ so not so relevant to today.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 11:54 am
Posted by geauxskeet
Member since Oct 2009
555 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:20 pm to
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I'm not trying to be greedy but at the same time I don't want to get ripped off selling the timber.


Oh you can bet you'll get ripped off.

To get a "fair deal" you need to hire a forester, to cruise and market your timber. Your profit after his cut is about the same as you'd end up with getting ripped off if you try to do it yourself. So it's a wash.

It's kind of BS, but that's how it's set up.


BS is right, your statement is not at all true. Hiring someone to manage your timber for greater growth and to meet your needs can be good. But we pay the same $ per ton for timber on a tract regardless of forester or landowner. Landowner gets more without a third-party selling cause you ain't paying someone to sell it. There a lots of foresters we work with, just like timber companies, there are really good ones and really bad ones. Do your research.
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