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re: Shooting Dogs
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:42 am to Ole Geauxt
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:42 am to Ole Geauxt
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i was wondering when you and your little shots would show back up in this thread....
So you're cool with just making whatever rules suit you with no regard for any thing else? All my points are valid, the only shot I took was to bleeding purple since his career choice doesn't really make sense given his views on killing a family pet.
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i might go to jail, but, you're going down for the count.
I bet that'd make you feel really good.
Why would that be worth going to jail?
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Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:45 am to mtb010
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Two years ago i was hunting some property in Madison county Mississippi with a buddy of mine, it was his uncle's property. I was heading out for an afternoon hunt and as I went over a hill in the back of the pasture I saw 3 dogs down at the bottom of the hill near a pond about 200 yards away, my first thought was the dogs belonged to my buddies uncle so of course I wasn't going to shoot them but i didn't want them screwing up my hunt so I called to the dogs and i was going to bring them back up to the house, as soon as I called to them they came at me with teeth showing and the hair on their backs standing up, they were only 200 yards away when they started at me, and I am in the middle of the pasture with a climbing stand on my back thinking great I am about to shoot this guys dogs, they closed into about 100 yards away and i started shooting, I shot two of them with my .270, I only had 4 bullets in my rifle and i emptied it on those bastards and thank god I carry a .45 long colt on my side when I deer hunt, i had to shoot the last one at about 10 feet with my .45 long colt. two of the dogs were Rotweiler mix and weighed about 80 pounds a piece. I say all of that to say this, I don't like shooting dogs and i wouldn't have shot those dogs had they not acted the way they did, but now that I have a 7 year old that likes to go off in the woods near the house by himself with his pellet gun the thought of what those fricking mangy mutts would do to a 7 year old is always on my mind, so i shoot all stray dogs that don't have a collar, period.
Now dogs are getting shot on their own damn property. Shoot them all.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:45 am to mtb010
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i shoot all stray dogs that don't have a collar, period
No matter where you are? Like, you drive around the cities blasting dogs with no collars?
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:47 am to JackNut
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JackNut
Stick to what you know. Which is Jacknut
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:56 am to NicoBlues
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Now dogs are getting shot on their own damn property. Shoot them all.
the dogs did not belong to my buddies uncle, they were strays, in fact they were responsible for killing a calf that belonged to the land owner, of course I didn't know this before shooting them, glad I shot them.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:57 am to Ole Geauxt
quote:You won't go to jail. Intruder being armed is not important.
well, don't bust through my door at night,,, i might go to jail, but, you're going down for the count...
A. A homicide is justifiable:
When committed by a person lawfully inside a dwelling, a place of business, or a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40), against a person who is attempting to make an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, or who has made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, and the person committing the homicide reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the entry or to compel the intruder to leave the premises or motor vehicle.
D. No finder of fact shall be permitted to consider the possibility of retreat as a factor in determining whether or not the person who used deadly force had a reasonable belief that deadly force was reasonable and apparently necessary to prevent a violent or forcible felony involving life or great bodily harm or to prevent the unlawful entry.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:57 am to NicoBlues
Good one!
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:59 am to mtb010
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No matter where you are? Like, you drive around the cities blasting dogs with no collars?
thats the greatest thing about living out in the country, I don't have to pass through any 'big' cities, and the people that I live around take care of their pets, its the dumb fricks that live in the city that try to own a big arse dog like the Rottweilers that I shot that come out to the country and drop them off.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:59 am to JackNut
My good friend and hunting partner got bit
thanksgiving weekend by a nuisance dog that
he was scared to shoot. He has had run ins with this dog at least 4-5 other times. We know who the dogs owner is, being that his trailer is right across the road from our property.
There are 4 dogs that run all over our property that are this other guys dogs. We have pictures of these dogs at all times of the night on our game cameras. It is normal for us to be walking to the stands before daylight and they come running through the woods barking and growling.
I shot one of these mutts in the leg with one of those rubber bludgeon tipped broadheads. These dogs are a danger to anyone hunting on our property.
Are these dogs someone's pets? Yes
Are they domesticated? Kinda
Are they " wild " Depends
Are they a danger to the hunters? Yes, especially now that someone got the hell bit out of him. unprovoked by the way..
These dogs are dead if they ever walk out on me while I am hunting.
We have had several discussions with the property owner to please control the dogs and put up a fence. Our hunting woods are not these dog's playground. We would not be discussing the eradication of these animals if they were friendly. They are aggressive and a nuisance, so they will be taken care of.
thanksgiving weekend by a nuisance dog that
he was scared to shoot. He has had run ins with this dog at least 4-5 other times. We know who the dogs owner is, being that his trailer is right across the road from our property.
There are 4 dogs that run all over our property that are this other guys dogs. We have pictures of these dogs at all times of the night on our game cameras. It is normal for us to be walking to the stands before daylight and they come running through the woods barking and growling.
I shot one of these mutts in the leg with one of those rubber bludgeon tipped broadheads. These dogs are a danger to anyone hunting on our property.
Are these dogs someone's pets? Yes
Are they domesticated? Kinda
Are they " wild " Depends
Are they a danger to the hunters? Yes, especially now that someone got the hell bit out of him. unprovoked by the way..
These dogs are dead if they ever walk out on me while I am hunting.
We have had several discussions with the property owner to please control the dogs and put up a fence. Our hunting woods are not these dog's playground. We would not be discussing the eradication of these animals if they were friendly. They are aggressive and a nuisance, so they will be taken care of.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:07 am to mtb010
Isn't part of the allure of living in the country the fact that you don't have to keep your dogs tied up?
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:09 am to thedice20
I can certainly understand this. I seriously doubt that this is a "common" problem though.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:10 am to JackNut
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Isn't part of the allure of living in the country the fact that you don't have to keep your dogs tied up?
yes, as long as they are not a nuisance to others, than once they become a nuisance it is the owners responsibility to remedy that.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:11 am to thedice20
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My good friend and hunting partner got bit
This is where it's acceptable to shoot a dog, even someone's pet, in my eyes.
It's unfortunate for the dog that owner apparently couldn't care less, but an attack is a deal breaker.
I really think the whole argument is that there are a couple people that claim they'd shoot a non-aggressive pet just because it messed up a deer hunt.
That, in my opinion, is too far.
A feral, mangy dog... no problem. But a dog that is a pet and was not threatening you, you should shoot it.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:12 am to thedice20
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We have had several discussions with the property owner to please control the dogs and put up a fence. Our hunting woods are not these dog's playground. We would not be discussing the eradication of these animals if they were friendly. They are aggressive and a nuisance, so they will be taken care of.
All of this is perfect to me.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:15 am to JackNut
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:21 am to JackNut
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Isn't part of the allure of living in the country the fact that you don't have to keep your dogs tied up?
Interesting choice of words here; " tied up"
They have an 80 acre tract of land that these animals can stay "tied up to".
If he values these dogs then he should bury and electric fence and get electric collars. Or get a proper fence inplace.
Not that it makes much difference, but these dogs are not full blood anything. They are mixed breed mutts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:25 am to junior
That study shows that over 50% of bites occur on the dog owners property and over 75% of those bites involved a "friend" of the dog's owner.
There is no indication that dogs roaming through hunting land are a problem.
Did you even read it?
There is no indication that dogs roaming through hunting land are a problem.
Did you even read it?
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:28 am to thedice20
I agree with you. And I agree that your situation is one where the eradication of the dogs is reasonable and justified. I just think you have an exceptional circumstance.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:33 am to LNCHBOX
This moral debate is certainly entertaining.
I especially like the comments from people like lnchbox woh believe that people should be sterotyped by their occupation, and that it is morally ok to shoot a human in response to a pet being shot while at the same time noting that the only point a pet should be shot is after someone has been bitten by it.
Those that oppose lethal force on a respect or moral issue using the reccuring theme of proper channels, common sense pathways, and intellecutally superior options too shooting the animal, refuse to address what is to be done when those options fail repeatedly.
Those same persons also fail to provide any definiton as to when a pet owner is so irresponsible that the pet becomes essentially a wild animal.
I especially like the comments from people like lnchbox woh believe that people should be sterotyped by their occupation, and that it is morally ok to shoot a human in response to a pet being shot while at the same time noting that the only point a pet should be shot is after someone has been bitten by it.
Those that oppose lethal force on a respect or moral issue using the reccuring theme of proper channels, common sense pathways, and intellecutally superior options too shooting the animal, refuse to address what is to be done when those options fail repeatedly.
Those same persons also fail to provide any definiton as to when a pet owner is so irresponsible that the pet becomes essentially a wild animal.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:33 am to VanRIch
Thread hijack
Would you shoot a horse? We've had several horses running around on our lease and shitting everywhere in our food plots
Would you shoot a horse? We've had several horses running around on our lease and shitting everywhere in our food plots
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