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re: Used boat buyers advice......
Posted on 6/28/14 at 8:46 pm to Swampeast
Posted on 6/28/14 at 8:46 pm to Swampeast
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Tear the pages out of the NADA book and use them for toilet paper.
Boattrader
thehulltruth
craigslist - search Bay Stealth BR, NOLA, Mobile, Houston, Tampa...takes awhile but you get a good variety of prices.
As far as the Honda, you should be good. The motor I was referring to was a 97' 90 hp carbed 4-stroke...two on the back of a seacat and they gave nothing but problems.
As mentioned, the two new 135s have been wonderful so far.
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 8:50 pm
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Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:56 am to Swampeast
Is buc the generally accepted source?
Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:56 am to TJG210
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Is buc the generally accepted source?
It is the best source by far.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 1:19 pm to Swampeast
Went and looked at the boat and everything looked great with the exception of a few small cosmetic issues. Only other thing that got my attention is that the guy told me the motor doesn't have an hour meter, is that a concern? Also, I understand bay stealth is no longer in business. Should this factor in my decision?
Posted on 6/29/14 at 1:54 pm to TJG210
Outboards rarely have hour meters. So conduct a mechanical survey and compression test.
I don't know the Bay Stealth line. Maybe someone else can help you with that.
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I don't know the Bay Stealth line. Maybe someone else can help you with that.
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I am a former tech. at lafayette power sports, we sold b.s. boats, they recently, went out of business or sold their name. so when all this happened lafayette power sports tried to pawn all the boats of on unexpecting buyers for a "low" price. little did the customer know the extreme poor quality of these boats. i dont like to bash companys but with products as poor as they make and seeing first hand on EVERY bs boat i rigged, serviced, what have you, i wouldnt trust the boat to even float much less preform at high speeds in rough water.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 6/30/14 at 7:47 am to Swampeast
I may see if I can go for a sea trial with it, I'd hate for a couple bad experiences talk me out of this deal. Especially since some of the claims the guy made in the article I didn't find to be true when doing my first inspection.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:52 am to TJG210
I'm not trying to talk you out of or into anything. If you truly believe that this is the boat for you then buy it. If not then I promise you that another one will come along. There will always be a "deal of a lifetime." Go in fully informed and don't become so eager or enamored that your judgment is fogged.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:01 am to TJG210
Found this online a while back and thought I'd share
VESSEL PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT
Buyers Sellers
Address Address
Phone Phone
Name of Vessel
Make and Type Year
Registration Number
Hull ID
Deposit and Payment
Buyers offer to purchase all right, title and interest in the above vessel together with all of its gear, machinery, equipment, furnishings, boats, appurtenances and other articles aboard or ashore, including, without limitation, all items set forth in the list of inventory attached hereto, (collectively, the “Vessel”), subject to the terms and conditions of this agreement. The purchase price of the vessel shall be ($XXXX). Buyers have delivered to the sellers a deposit of ($XXXX). The balance is to be paid within seven (7) days of completion of the sea trial, engine survey and marine survey. Final payment is to be made in the form of a cashier’s check.
Performance and Condition
Offer is made subject to Buyers’ satisfaction with the performance of the vessel and to their acceptance of the condition of the vessel as put forth in an engine survey and marine survey made in their behalf. Buyers agree to hire and pay for services of the surveyors of their choice and to pay for haul out charges in connections with the surveys.
Deposit Refund
Should the vessel prove unsatisfactory to the Buyers due to performance or condition as determined, by the Buyers, during sea trial and surveys, the deposit will be refunded less any expenses incurred for the Buyers’ benefit.
Title
Sellers are to furnish clear title to the vessel in accordance with regulations of the Tax Departments of the City, County, and State. Title to the vessel shall remain with the Sellers until payment in full has been made.
Liens, Bills, etc
The Sellers are to discharge all liens, mortgages and bills of any kind now held against the vessel, or any which may be incurred in their behalf before passage of title and possession to the Buyers.
Condition not Warranted
Vessel is offered to the Buyers “as is, where is and with all faults”. No representation as to the condition of said vessel is binding upon the Sellers. No warranty is either expressed or implied other than specifically set forth in this agreement.
Buyers Offer
By signing below, Buyers offer, as of the date indicated, to purchase the Vessel from Sellers under the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
Buyer:
Buyer:
Date:
Sellers Acceptance
By signing below, Sellers agree, as of the date indicated, to sell the Vessel to Buyer under the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
Seller:
Seller:
Date:
Sea Trial Approved Engine Survey Approved
Buyer: Buyer:
Buyer: Buyer:
Date: Date:
Marine Survey Approved
Buyer:
Buyer:
Date:
Buyers Final Acceptance
By signing below, Buyers acknowledge that pursuant to the provisions of this Agreement, Buyers have approved of the Vessel in all respects, and that all contingencies have been satisfied.
Buyer:
Buyer:
Date:
Inventory list
The following items shall be considered to be part of the Vessel and shall be included in the purchase price set forth in this agreement.
Inventory not included
VESSEL PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT
Buyers Sellers
Address Address
Phone Phone
Name of Vessel
Make and Type Year
Registration Number
Hull ID
Deposit and Payment
Buyers offer to purchase all right, title and interest in the above vessel together with all of its gear, machinery, equipment, furnishings, boats, appurtenances and other articles aboard or ashore, including, without limitation, all items set forth in the list of inventory attached hereto, (collectively, the “Vessel”), subject to the terms and conditions of this agreement. The purchase price of the vessel shall be ($XXXX). Buyers have delivered to the sellers a deposit of ($XXXX). The balance is to be paid within seven (7) days of completion of the sea trial, engine survey and marine survey. Final payment is to be made in the form of a cashier’s check.
Performance and Condition
Offer is made subject to Buyers’ satisfaction with the performance of the vessel and to their acceptance of the condition of the vessel as put forth in an engine survey and marine survey made in their behalf. Buyers agree to hire and pay for services of the surveyors of their choice and to pay for haul out charges in connections with the surveys.
Deposit Refund
Should the vessel prove unsatisfactory to the Buyers due to performance or condition as determined, by the Buyers, during sea trial and surveys, the deposit will be refunded less any expenses incurred for the Buyers’ benefit.
Title
Sellers are to furnish clear title to the vessel in accordance with regulations of the Tax Departments of the City, County, and State. Title to the vessel shall remain with the Sellers until payment in full has been made.
Liens, Bills, etc
The Sellers are to discharge all liens, mortgages and bills of any kind now held against the vessel, or any which may be incurred in their behalf before passage of title and possession to the Buyers.
Condition not Warranted
Vessel is offered to the Buyers “as is, where is and with all faults”. No representation as to the condition of said vessel is binding upon the Sellers. No warranty is either expressed or implied other than specifically set forth in this agreement.
Buyers Offer
By signing below, Buyers offer, as of the date indicated, to purchase the Vessel from Sellers under the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
Buyer:
Buyer:
Date:
Sellers Acceptance
By signing below, Sellers agree, as of the date indicated, to sell the Vessel to Buyer under the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
Seller:
Seller:
Date:
Sea Trial Approved Engine Survey Approved
Buyer: Buyer:
Buyer: Buyer:
Date: Date:
Marine Survey Approved
Buyer:
Buyer:
Date:
Buyers Final Acceptance
By signing below, Buyers acknowledge that pursuant to the provisions of this Agreement, Buyers have approved of the Vessel in all respects, and that all contingencies have been satisfied.
Buyer:
Buyer:
Date:
Inventory list
The following items shall be considered to be part of the Vessel and shall be included in the purchase price set forth in this agreement.
Inventory not included
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:12 am to TJG210
Don't forget the trailer. That cost me big time on my last purchase. Especially if brakes are important to you.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:27 pm to AlxTgr
My advise has been for years when dealing with a used boat, assume you have to replace the engine in the next two years.
If the purchase price and cost to replace the engine doesn't scare you buy it.
If the purchase price and cost to replace the engine doesn't scare you buy it.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:27 pm to TJG210
Keep us updated and let us know what you decide to do. Good luck.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:32 pm to Swampeast
Thanks for the advice.....ended up passing on the deal. Guy wanted over list and was very unwilling to take a more than reasonable offer. No reason to rush a deal, especially since there was no reason for this boat to command a premium. It was a good shape, but had several small issues that I would have liked to have fixed had I bought it. Transducer needed to be replaced, discoloration from not being covered, and a cosmetic gouge.
I told the guy the offer still stands if he changes his mind, but I doubt it.
I told the guy the offer still stands if he changes his mind, but I doubt it.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:11 am to TJG210
Sorry to hear that, but it's good you had the gusto to walk away from a deal you didn't feel completely comfortable with.
There are a lot of boats for sale right now. If you aren't in a rush, you might find better pricing if you wait until Nov. - Feb. For some reason, sellers are a little more agreeable on the price in the colder months. Just my experience.
Good luck with the search!
There are a lot of boats for sale right now. If you aren't in a rush, you might find better pricing if you wait until Nov. - Feb. For some reason, sellers are a little more agreeable on the price in the colder months. Just my experience.
Good luck with the search!
Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:27 am to TJG210
From what you said and I read I think you made the right decision.
I was playing around recently and found a Grady White Tournament 185. I had never heard of the boat before, but I'm not a big powerboat type guy. The boat appeared to me to be very versatile. GW is very well made and of course you can fish with one. However, the 185 also has a bow seating area and a tow rope pylon.
I found one for sale in Holland, Michigan, that had been used fresh water on Lake Michigan. I wanted it, but when I called it had already been sold.
Anyway there are several for sale on the internet all around 20K with trailer.
Again, good luck.
I was playing around recently and found a Grady White Tournament 185. I had never heard of the boat before, but I'm not a big powerboat type guy. The boat appeared to me to be very versatile. GW is very well made and of course you can fish with one. However, the 185 also has a bow seating area and a tow rope pylon.
I found one for sale in Holland, Michigan, that had been used fresh water on Lake Michigan. I wanted it, but when I called it had already been sold.
Anyway there are several for sale on the internet all around 20K with trailer.
Again, good luck.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:31 pm to Swampeast
Thanks for the words of encouragement.....of course on my way home from work yesterday I was pretty bummed out about the deal falling through. Of course as I'm driving down my street I see a guy polishing up his 22' Pathfinder and putting a For Sale sign on it. Just out of curiosity I stopped to kick the tires, unfortunately the guy is looking for a little bit more than I'm willing to pay at this time.
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