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Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:57 am to
And so on and so forth
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:06 am to
Bwahaha at "Intelligent design".

Why do men have nipples?

Why is the playground of the human body located in the same area as waste disposal?

Why do humans have an appendix, tonsils and adenoids?

Why are knees and stomach muscles so weak compared to what a truly intelligent design would be?

Come on. Grow up.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:44 am to
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A Scientific dissent from Darwin
Bwahaha at "Intelligent design".

Why do men have nipples?

Hypothetically, VonDäniken aliens visited the planet 200Kyrs ago. They genetically altered an african Homo Erectus population giving rise to Homo Sapiens to serve as a trainable slave race. Then they had to leave. The genetically altered sapiens, jump started to the most advanced life on the planet, takes over. In terms of God, rinse and repeat.

Our fossil record would present identically.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:50 am to
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Biologic Institute


This is a group focused on pushing intelligent design. Best not to treat them seriously.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:41 am to
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Again he is not arguing for intelligent design, but if you would like to continue to mock my simpleton views while your own group of scientists point out deep fundamental flaws in the theory, then by all means mock away.


Gladly. You are intellectually dishonest at best and are taking him out of context.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:48 pm to
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I say your book is nonsense. You quote your nonsense book.


Not MY book. You never gave it a fair chance, you let the actions of men poison you. But I hope that one day you will overcome that.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Again... This doesn't surprise anyone. It's going from a new species of Finch that has minor changes on break size or color to some new unimagined animal with new organs and body parts. I know the retort is just give it enough time and it will happen...



Ya how long does it take for a species to evolve into an entirely new clade right? Or more importantly if evolution is real why are there only 6 evolutionary "kingdoms"
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:53 pm to
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You never gave it a fair chance


I was a Christian for nearly three decades.

Nice try, bud.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:00 pm to
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I was a Christian for nearly three decades.



A CINO?
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:02 pm to
I haven’t personally looked into the soft tissue surviving millions of years

I didn't claim anything. I just stated what was found. Explain it away. How has soft tissue survived the test of time? My only argument is evolution can not be proved. I have argued the time line of human existence by asking people to google charts of human population growth. It is right in front of you. Humans have not been on this planet for over a millions years. Mathematically impossible. Numbers don't lie.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128875 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:07 pm to
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My only argument is evolution can not be proved




You don't understand how science works. "Proof" is for Math.

Evolution can definitely and has been "proven". Genetics ended any doubt whatsoever. Evolution is a fact.

There is literally no debate, within the biologic scientific community, on whether evolution takes place. There are minor debates on mechanism and such but thats far beyond your grasp.


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I have argued the time line of human existence by asking people to google charts of human population growth. It is right in front of you. Humans have not been on this planet for over a millions years. Mathematically impossible. Numbers don't lie.



This particular insane argument is by far the dumbest one that you people have come up with. It has been so thoroughly debunked that I don't even know what to say about it.

You realize that populations grow with advances in technology, correct? Tools develop. Fire. Medicine. Society. Order. Agriculture. Etc etc.

Sigh.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:09 pm to
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A CINO?


Nope, I actually used to believe that stuff.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:15 pm to
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Evolution can definitely and has been "proven". Genetics ended any doubt whatsoever. Evolution is a fact.

There is literally no debate, within the biologic scientific community, on whether evolution takes place. There are minor debates on mechanism and such but thats far beyond your grasp.


DING

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have argued the time line of human existence by asking people to google charts of human population growth. It is right in front of you. Humans have not been on this planet for over a millions years. Mathematically impossible. Numbers don't lie.
I mean. This was just...........yeah.......holy shite...........some people should simply never debate anything involving numbers!!
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128875 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:17 pm to
I laugh every time I see that stupid human populations argument, straight out of AnswersinGenesis.

It is so laughably dumb its almost hard to wrap my head around.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29075 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:28 pm to
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I laugh every time I see that stupid human populations argument, straight out of AnswersinGenesis.

It is so laughably dumb its almost hard to wrap my head around.
I don't even understand what a population chart is supposed to "prove". Are they trying to use population figures to extrapolate back to a population of 2?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128875 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:33 pm to
Yes.

The basic argument is that humans began millions of years ago, based on "growth rates", that we would have more people.

They like to throw out a human growth rate of .5% for some arbitrary reason.

First of all, the human growth rate from 1000AD to 1800AD was .1227%, far less than the one they infer.

Second if you do the math and trace from a population of 8 around the time Noah supposedly existed, there would be like 89,000 people in the world around 400BC, which is completely absurd.

It assumes static growth rates, and completely discounts WHY populations change, diminish or explode:

War, famine, societal developments, and more than anything: Tools, Agriculture, Industrialization, Medicine.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:38 pm to
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They like to throw out a human growth rate of .5% for some arbitrary reason.

That's nice and arbitrary.

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War, famine, societal developments, and more than anything: Tools, Agriculture, Industrialization, Medicine.



Yeah. It's honestly mind boggling in its stupidity.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29075 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:46 pm to
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I have argued the time line of human existence by asking people to google charts of human population growth. It is right in front of you. Humans have not been on this planet for over a millions years. Mathematically impossible. Numbers don't lie.
Numbers might not lie, but the people giving you the numbers do.

Population growth rates are NOT consistent. If they were, the planet would be absolutely overrun with every creature imaginable. There would be no resources left to sustain anything, no room to walk around.

Whoever led you down the path of estimating the length of human history by looking at a population chart is a liar and a manipulator. Their goal was to deceive you into believing something that is absolutely not true, in order to control you.

You should be more skeptical of those who try to control you by withholding knowledge, and less skeptical of those who wish to free you by giving you knowledge.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128875 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:47 pm to
The first time I encountered that argument on here years ago I had to sit and think about it for awhile because I was so baffled by its stupidity.

I've seen it argued in almost every thread on here since then. It is one of the staple AnswersInGenesis arguments.

Really bizarre. There are quite a few right out of the playbook, all are so easily debunked its almost not even worth typing.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:49 pm to
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Really bizarre. There are quite a few right out of the playbook, all are so easily debunked its almost not even worth typing.



I just don't know why anyone would even assume a constant growth rate in population. It makes no sense. You'd think making that claim would make the average middle schooler raise their eyebrows.
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