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re: Abortion from a Republican woman's perspective...
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If there are no morals in politics, you don’t have the right to even exist
This makes no sense.
It absolutely does. It makes perfect sense. It’s why killing people is reprehensible to a civilized society, because it’s immoral. Otherwise, it may be inconvenient to some, but overall, if it serves the interests of society on a whole, then it’s perfectly okay according to your argument of laws serving the people. It was also the argument of Hitler with his undesirables. Not really any difference, but we have a set of laws built upon morality and the right of the individual, which sets us apart from that garbage mentality. It is based upon biblically based morality, not the whims of society or an all powerful tyrannical dictator. If so, then you may not even have the right to exist.
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Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You're free to be a Catholic and think any abortion after conception (or hell, even using Birth Control in the first place) is immoral, but it's not intellectual inconsistent for the same person to not desire those things to be made illegal by your government.
Moral relativism.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:59 pm to shoelessjoe
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If we consider death when the heart stops beating, then we should consider life beginning when the heart is beating.
The heart is just a pump that sustains brain activity. Brain activity (whenever that occurs in development) should signify “life.”
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:59 pm to Adam Banks
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An uneducated stance.
I'm just pointing out they can use the framing against you and your stance and call you the same monster as the blue hairs pushing for abortion up to birth.
Just see them rant about IVF if you want an easy example.
Again, that's why that is THE issue in this discussion.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:59 pm to FooManChoo
Have an upvote. Now I’m going watch football.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:00 pm to bayoumuscle21
I said Republican.
Doesn’t mean I’m 100% conservative.
Good day..
Doesn’t mean I’m 100% conservative.
Good day..
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:01 pm to 14&Counting
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So would force a woman to carry her rapists' baby to term?
Yes, I would not allow someone to kill an innocent person because of something someone else did.
In your opinion, what other crimes should allow someone to kill innocent people?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:01 pm to Azkiger
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Most people let convenience dictate their values and behaviors?
It’s a serious issue. You don’t have the right to man-splain it to people you don’t know and you don’t know their situation. Mind your own business and get out of other peoples lives.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:01 pm to Warrior Court
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Most people disagree with you and your wife on this issue. What does that tell you?
I've seen you post numerous times on here, spewing absent minded leftist garbage.
In direct response to your question, I've seen far too many former abortion doctors and nurses agreeing with me.
What does that tell you that experts have left that field because they have also come to believe it to be murder?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:02 pm to gaetti15
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Moral relativism.
I said you're free to make the moral case within your personal beliefs.
Morality and political preference are 2 different things.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:03 pm to Warrior Court
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Mind your own business and get out of other peoples lives.
Pay more taxes, get this vax, stay home, wear your mask.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:03 pm to madamtiger
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I said Republican. Doesn’t mean I’m 100% conservative. Good day..
Care to respond to the portion regarding birth control and Plan B being solutions to all the issues you came up with?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:03 pm to Warrior Court
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You don’t have the right to man-splain it to people you don’t know and you don’t know their situation.
Yes he does.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:03 pm to madamtiger
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I said Republican.
Doesn’t mean I’m 100% conservative.
Good day..
I almost made that distinction in my original response.
As a conservative, I don't feel any comradery with Republicans. I imagine most politically active people (aka: people who spend lots of time on a political message board) feel exactly the same way. So leading with "I'm a Republican" was counterproductive.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm just pointing out they can use the framing against you and your stance and call you the same monster as the blue hairs pushing for abortion up to birth. Just see them rant about IVF if you want an easy example. Again, that's why that is THE issue in this discussion.
The issue for the subject of this thread was a “pro life mom” who considers the fetus a baby worth protecting in any other circumstance unless the dad is a criminal. Then it’s ok to be murdered.
You turned it into a pro choice thread of debate about weeks.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:04 pm to Azkiger
quote:Roughly at that point it’s referred to as a fetus, but development started 9 weeks prior to that.
Just a heads up, the fetal development period starts at the 9th week.
quote:What species of zygote?
Pretty sure it's just a zygote when it implants in the uterus.
quote:that’s when pregnancy begins. It was a new human prior to implantation.
Still, I'm with you, implantation is where I think a new human comes into existence.
A is A.
Note - not every new human survives to implant.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:05 pm to bayoumuscle21
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What does that tell you that experts have left that field because they have also come to believe it to be murder?
That doesn’t change that the majority disagrees with them.
I didn’t personally insult you but I guess that’s all you have.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:05 pm to Warrior Court
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It’s a serious issue. You don’t have the right to man-splain it to people you don’t know and you don’t know their situation. Mind your own business and get out of other peoples lives.
You literally just affirmed my point.
Going beyond "is this a human or not" wades into convenience/inconvenience (people's exact circumstance).
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:06 pm to Adam Banks
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The issue for the subject of this thread was a “pro life mom” who considers the fetus a baby worth protecting in any other circumstance unless the dad is a criminal. Then it’s ok to be murdered.
You turned it into a pro choice thread of debate about weeks.
I also discussed the rational policy would include the exceptions she posted about in OP
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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discussed the rational policy would include the exceptions she posted about in OP
Rational because you said so right?
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