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Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:33 am to
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:33 am to
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MoT, I apologize. Have you had a stroke? You think evangelical Christians who are anti-abortion and anti-trans should support Democrats????


Nobody “should” support Democrats, obviously.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:33 am to
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Evangelical Christian
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Have not proven this yet. But keep stating he is.
Correct, not proven.

But that does not mean that there is several indicators pointing to just that (otherwise known as evidence). He is connected to a church and a non-profit. He considers himself a preacher and has given 'sermons'. Ordained and sanctioned is a whole other matter though. What he considers himself and being 'official' is indeed in doubt.

But as for conjecture, and it is conjecture at this point, and his motivations whether or not he was 'official' or not does not matter. All that matters is he thought that way and there's enough evidence for me, personally, to assume that he is acting like Eric Rudolph and his primary grudge is against abortion with, as what normally happens, that grudge expands into other areas around that core.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471491 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:33 am to
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So 50% proves his theory?

You seem confused.

Poking holes in shitty theories =/= providing an alternative theory.

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27377 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:33 am to
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And that's ignoring being anti-abortion and anti-trans


PIVOT!!!
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27377 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:34 am to
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What's a bigger number: 85 or 84?




What's a bigger number, 13 or 14?
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 8:35 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471491 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:35 am to
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PIVOT!!!

Uh, no. Those 3 variables have always been the backbone.



See? No pivot. Consistently citing those 3 variables.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27377 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:37 am to


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None of those 3 are as self-limiting as the 3 variables of the shooter (the biggest one being Evangelical Christian).


We can go down the list if you want, you're already sitting at one strike.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
96143 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:38 am to
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Again, not true. He wasn't registered anything




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I see you're getting histrionic with this one


Im just posting facts

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giving up I see


Giving up on what?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127105 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:39 am to
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…sermon he gave preaching Evangelical Christianity.
What elements of Evangelical Christianity did he preach about in that single message?
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Evangelical bible college
Vance Boelter appears to have claimed that he attended Christ for the Nations Institute, a Bible college in Dallas, as part of his education that entitled him to use the title "Dr. Vance Boelter". However, it is important to note that this information comes from online sources and has not been independently verified. There is no mention of Boelter attending Lancaster Bible College or Bethel University, both of which are other notable Christian institutions.
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Evangelical church he created
Which leads to an archived link with no sub pages outlining the beliefs of the Revoformation (not a church but apparently a belief system he developed).
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OTHER THAN THAT, I've provided no evidence.
I wholeheartedly agree. You have provided absolutely no evidence.

My hope is that you do not practice criminal law.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471491 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:39 am to
Pew research on abortion

"Conservative rep/lean rep" are the only cohort with over 50% supporting abortion being illegal in most/all cases

Here's transgender Pew data



So yeah, combine all 3 and what is the likelihood this guy is a Leftist?

Also, not, the Pew data is in terms of "Republican/Democrat" and I'm being much more specific with "Leftist"
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:40 am to
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My hope is that you do not practice criminal law.


He offers discount divorce and has hosting tigerdroppings radio show on his list of accomplishments.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471491 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:40 am to
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We can go down the list if you want, you're already sitting at one strike.


85 v. 84

And, again, that's party identification, which is related to but not directly addressing status as a "leftist"
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27377 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:43 am to
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85 v. 84


14 vs 13. There are more Evangelical Christians that are dem/lean dem than atheists that are rep/lean rep.

The fact you're not willing to conced this point proves what I've said all along. You are just a contrarian.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471491 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:43 am to
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What elements of Evangelical Christianity did he preach about in that single message?

Did you listen to it?

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Vance Boelter appears to have claimed that he attended Christ for the Nations Institute, a Bible college in Dallas, as part of his education that entitled him to use the title "Dr. Vance Boelter". However, it is important to note that this information comes from online sources and has not been independently verified. There is no mention of Boelter attending Lancaster Bible College or Bethel University, both of which are other notable Christian institutions.

So you're arguing since he may not have attended, the fact that he is so desperate to be seen as Evangelical that he'd lie about it shows he's less likely to be Evangelical?

You may want to think about your arguments.

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You have provided absolutely no evidence.



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My hope is that you do not practice criminal law.

I do. Lots. Very respected in the field, actually.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:44 am to
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He offers discount divorce and has hosting tigerdroppings radio show on his list of accomplishments.
And clerks for Judge Mathis.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:45 am to
Yep. Once ppl see the connections they see how fricked up he and this site is.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471491 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:45 am to
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14 vs 13. There are more Evangelical Christians that are dem/lean dem than atheists that are rep/lean rep.



Again, you're confusing the party issue with Leftism, which has been explained multiple times. It's already been said multiple times he could, theoretically, be a moderate DEM.

And I said "most limiting factor". The association with REP is more limiting than the alternative (as moderate DEMs are not Leftist)
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27377 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:47 am to
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And I said "most limiting factor".


You also said that it was more so than atheism.

Until I looked it up and showed you they're statistically the same.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127105 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:48 am to
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Did you listen to it?
You asserting (based upon listening to the sermon) that he was an Evangelical Christian. I am asking you to summarize your observations.
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So you're arguing since he may not have attended...
I am posting what is currently known about him. There has been no verification of his educational credentials.

I see you have skipped over the church again.

As far as your criminal law practice, you seem to have difficulty in ascertaining what is evidence versus what is hearsay.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:57 am to
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She literally cast the tie breaking vote to pass the budget.


As even you know, that isn't true, but even if it were, it doesn't establish or even suggest that was the motive for Boetler shooting her. Rep. Hortman (RIP) also had lunch the day she was shot. Was she shot BECAUSE she had lunch?

Here's an analogy. A shooter kills 30 people. Half of them are white. Half are black. You can't conclude that the shooter acted because of his hatred for black people. That theory doesn't account for the fact that 15 white people were also killed.
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 8:59 am
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