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Posted on 3/28/25 at 2:55 pm to oklahogjr
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False
Nope. We're literally talking about a judge who wanted to turn planes around in mid-air as they were deporting tda members.
Anyone defending this is defending tda members.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 2:56 pm to TrueTiger
Who made the financial and logistical arrangements for the incursions?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 2:59 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:were they tda members? How were they affiliated? How did we verify and what if we got it wrong? Should they have no recourse?
Nope. We're literally talking about a judge who wanted to turn planes around in mid-air as they were deporting tda members.
Anyone defending this is defending tda members.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 3:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So say they pick up lake chuck fan.
Lake chuck fan is a natural born, tax paying, red blooded American........ and for a bonus, i dont have gang affiliated gang tatoos on my face, chest, and back!
Look man, i get what your saying and the point your trying to make, but this law was passed 200+
years ago and has never been used for that which you suggest.
I am with you about not having blind trust in our federal government, but we can make your type of claims on many different situations (government overreach), but we have to trust the system somewhat. So far its held up, for the most part, for 250ish years. Personally, I have much more confidence in the current administration than the prior Marxist regime(although we're still fighting them).
Again, i hear you.... but...
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 3/28/25 at 3:11 pm to oklahogjr
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were they tda members? How were they affiliated? How did we verify and what if we got it wrong? Should they have no recourse
No. Not according to the Alien Enemies Act, its up to the Excutive Branch.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 3:41 pm to oklahogjr
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:07 pm to EliasGrodin
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Salvadorn hellhole
Is this some joke about Salvador Dali's bedroom? What the heck is a salvadorn??
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:08 pm to TrueTiger
Funnily enough, this doesnt even matter.
POTUS has clear authority to make this determination.
POTUS has clear authority to make this determination.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:19 pm to LSUnation78
So of all the publicity, all the brooh hah hah, all the raids across the country for this gang.........and there are some pure as the driven snow, innocent kids just chillin with them and got caught up in the sweep.
Well then lets just stop every thing.
Once again the liberals pecking one piece of fly shite out of the pepper and saying ah hah stop everything, we must let thousands of murderers and rapists go because one of their recruits had not been initiated yet...
Well then lets just stop every thing.
Once again the liberals pecking one piece of fly shite out of the pepper and saying ah hah stop everything, we must let thousands of murderers and rapists go because one of their recruits had not been initiated yet...
Posted on 3/28/25 at 5:37 pm to dafif
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It is my understanding that there is a review of every person that has been detained Further nothing in here says the right of habeas corpus has been suspended so if you are an American citizen you would be able to argue prior to your deportation Further you would be able to argue for your return if by some reason you were deported which I 100% guarantee would not happen
Except that none of this happened and the Administration is taking the position that none of it is available.
All of these guys can be deported using ordinary proceeding.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:02 pm to GamecockUltimate
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Tell that to the japanese citizens picked up during WWII and put into internment camps. That was the last time the AEA was used
Was that such a bad idea??? Seems like the reasonable action to insure the protection of US citizens.
The lives of Americans are vastly more important than the "rights" of some tatted up savage here illegally.
Or Japanese who we were at war with.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:18 pm to imjustafatkid
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Anyone claiming this law is being improperly used here is defending tda.
Well that makes no logical sense.
Reeks of emotional bullshite
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:21 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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So they were illegal and hanging out with terrorists. I'm glad they got deported.
It's not about the result, it's about the process.
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Irrelevant. They are illegal and connected to a terrorist organization.
Assumption not in evidence, which is the point you're glossing over.
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Proof of a specific crime is not needed for deportation.
This isn't about deportation. This isa about using the AEA to skip due process (and send them to a third party country). Nobody is arguing normal deportation process (which includes due process) was not proper.
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The act is not up for judicial review, so why would the president have to go before judges to prove everyone deported was found guilty of a crime?
That raises the question of what happens if a person not associated with TDA or a citizen is also sent to El Salvador. If the decision on their ties is unilateral and unreviewable, what's the recourse?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:23 pm to dafif
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It is ignorant people like you and SFP
Me? Ignorant?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:23 pm to TrueTiger
Of course it does, but when have Democrats ever followed the rules? Suddenly they care about national security and the constitution. It's all a show on their part.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:27 pm to lake chuck fan
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Lake chuck fan is a natural born, tax paying, red blooded American
Irrelevant. If the decision is unilateral and unreviewable, what is your recourse as a natural-born citizen, exactly?
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and for a bonus, i dont have gang affiliated gang tatoos on my face, chest, and back!
Again, not relevant.
quote:
but this law was passed 200+
years ago and has never been used for that which you suggest.
It's never been used the way Trump is using it, either.
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but we have to trust the system somewhat.
That's what basic due process is for.
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Personally, I have much more confidence in the current administration than the prior Marxist regime
And what happens if they abuse this law in ways I'm discussing above?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
So would you feel better if they took them back to their country? Is sending them to a prison the issue? They really need no Alien Enemies Act. They broke into our country illegally, now they’re going back. They don’t have due process because they’re from another country. I trust the Executive Branch has done their work, especially this one. The previous Executive Branches has deported illegals in the past, as it is their job to do.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:49 pm to bkhrph
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So would you feel better if they took them back to their country?
I'm more concerned about due process.
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They don’t have due process because they’re from another country.
Incorrect. Illegals in the US have the right of Due Process.
That's why they had to use a lot of creativity with invoking the AEA to avoid giving them due process.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If the amin can show this
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