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Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:26 am to
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:26 am to
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Mississippi is currently out of ICU beds for any patients.


That's interesting. Did they burn 100 ICU beds between January and now, resulting in less available?

MS Hospital Numbers
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:30 am to
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Yup.

He’s also likely wrong about successful therapies for Covid. His sample size is a whopping 15. He likely gave them placebos to a disease they were going to get over anyway.



Is it it that easy?


Well, you're likely wrong about him being wrong. And biden is wrong, and all of the other people laying into this are wrong. Wow, this is fuN!


#notmywrongness
Posted by browns
Member since Aug 2009
160 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:08 am to
Obviously, I have not. That’s a ridiculous argument. Are you going to drive to each hospital and check every ICU? No. I have several friends who practice in MS, and they are all saying the same thing. It should be disconcerting to everyone that hospitals are at or reaching capacity in so many locations.
Posted by browns
Member since Aug 2009
160 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:13 am to
Yes. I went through his training. A single year of internal medicine followed by a single year of ophthalmology. Did not complete ophthalmology and does not practice as ophthalmology. Now practicing as a GP although claiming to be family med despite no family med training. If he was ancient, I’d be more understanding as a single year followed by practicing as GP was way more common back in the day. Not for his era though.
Posted by browns
Member since Aug 2009
160 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:17 am to
This link is not updated to show current number of ICU beds available? If you are referring to the change from earlier in time, hard to say. They probably made new covid ICUs as we did in LA that are no longer operating. And anyway, what good is a bed if it is unavailable? Will you go staff these units?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:21 am to
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First, if we are talking credentials, what are this man’s?
He finished med school.
That is literally enough to know the CDC consulting with teachers' unions to determine scientific policy is bullshite!

His credentials are plenty good to know the CDC consulting with teachers' unions to determine what it will claim as scientific basis for endangering kids with mask wearing is bullshite!

The credentials of a first yr med student are good enough to know that a fully-vaccinated Fauci claiming scientific reasoning for wearing two masks into a socially distanced meeting with an all-immune audience is bullshite!
Posted by browns
Member since Aug 2009
160 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:41 am to
I also finished med school (and a full residency). Hate to break it to you, but there are still incompetent docs that graduate. Luckily, the very bad ones are usually in the minority which is why it hard to find a large group of credible doctors that follow this guys logic.

Also, if he doesn’t wear a mask, his picture isn’t circulating around this site and others calling him a hypocrite? Sometimes you do things to set an example of even if unnecessary
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:49 am to
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Another Doctor calling out the CDC bs.

That was sent to me by two different people, yesterday. I posted it on FB this morning. Immediately, it was "fact checked", and I was told that he was wrong about masks, "according to the CDC". SMH!
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:51 am to
Goalposts definitely moved.

Youtube
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:51 am to
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Haven’t posted on this site in years. Still read a good bit but usually have way too many other things to do in my free time than post anything. Felt the need to jump in here though. First, if we are talking credentials, what are this man’s? A quick search online shows that he completed a single internship year followed by maybe a single year of ophthalmology (which is a three year program after internship). So not sure if he dropped out or what. He did not even complete a family medicine residency as far as I can tell. I had also never heard of functional medicine, so I looked into the largest organization for the “specialty” that I could find, Institute for Functional Medicine. It seems that you can get certified in some aspect of this in as little as a few days. Even still, he does not seem to be listed in the organizations directory of practitioners. Not sure how he has any kind of authority or why anyone would blindly follow his advice? Second, most with any education on the matter do not believe that eradication is possible, much less the goal. That was not the point of the vaccines. Vaccines were developed to decrease morbidity and mortality (which they are certainly doing). He brings up antibody-mediated enhancement, but there is no evidence to support that with these vaccines. The vaccinated have far better clinical outcomes than the unvaccinated.


The fact that some of y’all are downvoting this……

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My rebuttal to his claim that ADE is happening just because vaccinated people are getting infected? It absurd to say ADE is happening if vaccinated people are getting less sick than the unvaccinated. Like I said I agree with most everything else he said. But this board has become an echo chamber just like they claim they despise. If you disagree with just one talking point you are a pariah. This board needs a wake up call


Supports this…..

Y’all are starting to sound like a bunch of crazy fricks
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 10:54 am
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:51 am to
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Something is keeping it going....is it those vaccinated???

Fast forward to his part about the mumps outbreak in the NHL a few years ago.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14655 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 10:58 am to
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I also finished med school (and a full residency). Hate to break it to you, but there are still incompetent docs that graduate.


What do you call the guy that finishes last in his med-school class?










Doctor!
Posted by browns
Member since Aug 2009
160 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:10 am to
This is an old video about H1N1. Even still, the video does not feature anyone who was recommending a vaccine defining the “goalposts”? How does this prove they were moved if you do not provide evidence of where they started and to where they moved?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:34 am to
Most of what the guy said was correct.

He just went way off the rails with the ADE claim. And I looked through all the research he cited and nothing supports his claim that ADE is happening from the vaccines. In fact none of the papers are even about vaccines or ADE.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136795 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:37 am to
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I also finished med school
Then you understand my statement, no?
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Sometimes you do things to set an example of even if unnecessary
You damn well don't proclaim it as "science" when you do!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136795 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:42 am to
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My rebuttal to his claim that ADE is happening
Right. His ADE claims were unfortunate and silly. But no sillier than statements originating from Fauci, or the CDC
Posted by Whichwayisup
Member since Jun 2021
454 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:17 pm to
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Yes. I went through his training. A single year of internal medicine followed by a single year of ophthalmology. Did not complete ophthalmology and does not practice as ophthalmology. Now practicing as a GP although claiming to be family med despite no family med training. If he was ancient, I’d be more understanding as a single year followed by practicing as GP was way more common back in the day. Not for his era though.


Wonder how many of those are illegals?
Posted by Whichwayisup
Member since Jun 2021
454 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:19 pm to
What is this animal reservoir talk? That's a new one for me. IF what he's saying is true, then the animal reservoir is the whole reason the vaccine doesn't work.
Posted by browns
Member since Aug 2009
160 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:23 pm to
I agree that a lot of what he said was factually accurate. Certainly not the ADE. And that’s a really big deal IMO. Regarding everything else, a lot was accurate but also not really relevant regarding the actual issue. Like I said, no one who is educated on the matter is suggesting the goal is eradication or preventing transmission. It was awesome when initial results looked like that may be remotely possible. But was never expected or the goal. I don’t keep up with the news or media too well, so if media has been pushing a different angle then they have also unfortunately been misguided. The goal is to keep as many people out of the hospital as possible because the healthcare system has been stretched way too thin by this thing. And all available evidence overwhelmingly shows that vaccination can help with this. He does not acknowledge that and actively states the opposite which is harmful to his patients and his colleagues.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9489 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:36 pm to
That's in Mt Vernon, OH...about 20 mins away from where i am in Central Ohio. Ohio is becoming more and more a solid Red state. After decades and dedades of national Democratic policies that set the states economy back (manufacturing), Ohioans finally woke up and decided we were done supporting those policies. Other rust belt states are starting to move this direction as well. The more the south turns from red to blue and becomes purple, the midwest is turning from blue to red and becoming purple. Ohio is leading that charge in my opinion. Ohio has a "Republican" Governor and both chambers of the Ohio General Assembly are solidly Republican. Now...if we could just somehow get Sherrod Brown out of the Senate.

This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 12:37 pm
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