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re: Another week that outs our resident liberals for what they are.......
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:17 am to roadGator
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:17 am to roadGator
So, let us use BMY as an example.
I certainly Acknowledge that he is left of me. Not terribly far left of me, but left of me. Let’s call him a center-left a libertarian to my center-right libertarian
He is also one of the most articulate and logical posters on this forum, whether you agree with us his position or disagree with it. And I DO disagree with him at times.
Yet the vast majority of the “right“ posters will attack his positions without giving them so much as a reasonable hearing, and they act as if he is located somewhere out to the left of Mao.
I certainly Acknowledge that he is left of me. Not terribly far left of me, but left of me. Let’s call him a center-left a libertarian to my center-right libertarian
He is also one of the most articulate and logical posters on this forum, whether you agree with us his position or disagree with it. And I DO disagree with him at times.
Yet the vast majority of the “right“ posters will attack his positions without giving them so much as a reasonable hearing, and they act as if he is located somewhere out to the left of Mao.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:19 am to NIH
quote:he can be a Democrat without falling off the left edge of the political spectrum, which is where he is portrayed as being
I’ll give you bmy. I don’t think I’ve seen texridder disagree with a Democrat policy yet
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:19 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Yet the vast majority of the “right“ posters will attack his positions without giving them so much as a reasonable hearing, and they act as if he is located somewhere out to the left of Mao.
Definitely not all, I have just recently agreed with him twice. It really depends on what he or any of the other ones says. I guess that goes for anyone.
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 9:24 am
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:20 am to Wolf Messing
quote:
Refuse to Rent Apartments to African Americans
I will give you this one that happened before I was born if it is indeed true. All of the others are bullshite. Now, with that said everyone has done something that another would consider racist at one point in time.
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 9:26 am
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:20 am to roadGator
quote:
I think BMY is more left than you believe.
I think BMY is far left primarily in a couple of areas driven by race. Other than that, just liberal.
Hank isn't far left, but Hank is also not an honest poster on the whole.
And, by "honest", I don't mean just lying. I mean, posting for disingenuous reasons.
He's a "thread controller" not unlike xiv albeit not as asinine as xiv
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:20 am to AggieHank86
Their end of the spectrum has gone quite left. How many Democrats do you see here stating that the free nonsense has gotten out of control?
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:21 am to ShortyRob
Hero Hank loves running interference
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:22 am to ShortyRob
quote:
He's a "thread controller" not unlike xiv albeit not as asinine as xiv
I wouldn't even compare him to xiv. xiv is in a class of his own.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:22 am to Wolf Messing
quote:
- Refuse to Rent Apartments to African Americans
quote:Voiced an opinion
- Wanted to enforce the death penalty on African American teens false accused of a crime
quote:This is just a brazen lie
- Called Mexicans rapist and thieves
quote:Muslim isn't a race
- Muslim Ban
quote:How is this "racism"?
- Accused Obama of not being American (For a Long time, and led the whole birther argument)
quote:Brazen lie
- Called a group of Nazis "Good People"
quote:Because even asking him was stupid and he's not playing your liberal game
- Would not denounce David Duke
quote:Wasn't racist no matter how bad you retards want it to be
- Told the women senators to GO back to their country
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:23 am to AggieHank86
BMY is ridiculed for stealing from taxpayers.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:24 am to ShortyRob
quote:
How does one "run off" someone on a message board?
Can you put yourself in someone else position and try to see their viewpoint? that everything you post is in return mocked or criticized for 2 straight pages until you can get to that one post that actually is trying to discuss the topic in a mature manner? I know it's a message board, so I don't expect to get logical replies back, but I can see how some people would get tired of it and view it as a waste of time to even try to explain their opinion when you know what it will lead to.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:25 am to Wolf Messing
quote:
- Refuse to Rent Apartments to African Americans
- Wanted to enforce the death penalty on African American teens false accused of a crime
- Called Mexicans rapist and thieves
- Muslim Ban
- Accused Obama of not being American (For a Long time, and led the whole birther argument)
- Called a group of Nazis "Good People"
- Would not denounce David Duke
- Told the women senators to GO back to their country
I'm not even some huge Trump defender but -
1) Yeah I'm sure Trump was personally intervening to keep black people out of apartments.
2) Trump got ahead of himself in a city where he was a god, like a shite ton of other people at the time
3) He called some people crossing the border criminals and rapists. And that's true. It's incendiary and not a great way to constructively talk about the issue, but you're being overbroad and doing so intentionally.
4) He could outright say "the only thing we can really do is to keep Muslims from coming into the country" and it still wouldn't be racist. Muslims are the only serious external terrorist threat the country faces. It's dumb policy, but probably not racist.
5) Obama is a shitty American. He wants to change how America works, thinks and behaves in a way that will fundamentally undermine how we've been a successful and brilliant nation.
6) He said there were good people on both sides. And he was probably right. The idea that everyone in Charlottesville on the right was some neo-nazi in a white supremacy organization is stupid.
7) David Duke thing was dumb on his part. He's an egomaniac who doesn't like to be backed into stupid media-driven corners.
8) Telling them to go back to their country was also stupid. But these are women who dislike most of what America represents. He should have just called them awful human beings and encouraged them to collectively go frick themselves.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:25 am to AggieHank86
quote:
whether you agree with us his position
Interesting
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:26 am to Wolf Messing
quote:
Wolf Messing
Are you going to answer my question, or continue to ignore it?
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:27 am to Wolf Messing
quote:
Can you put yourself in someone else position and try to see their viewpoint? that everything you post is in return mocked or criticized for 2 straight pages until you can get to that one post that actually is trying to discuss the topic in a mature manner? I know it's a message board, so I don't expect to get logical replies back, but I can see how some people would get tired of it and view it as a waste of time to even try to explain their opinion when you know what it will lead to.
If said opinion is based on emotions or things that are not factual, why should any one listen?
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:27 am to NIH
quote:Hank enjoys a good debate
Hero Hank loves running interference
A good debate does not happen when absolutely every participant is saying the same thing. The quality of a debate increases when someone tries to find ways to make other participants look at the question from a different perspective.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:27 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The problem is the pep rally mentality of the forum majority, the unwillingness of the majority to actually LISTEN to competing viewpoints and their tendency to shout-down dissenters
I have not once seen a legitimate competing viewpoint that is actually worth a shite. If any lib on this board could come up with something more intelligent than just calling him a racist, sexist, misogynist, or any other progressive buzzword (without anything to support those claims, I might add), they might get a legitimate response.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:28 am to ShortyRob
quote:
He's a "thread controller" not unlike xiv albeit not as asinine as xiv
I've been here a very short time and I don't know that I've ever seen someone that arrogant without cause. If your sigline talks about owning people and you're not 13 playing Call of Duty, you shouldn't be taken seriously. By anybody.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:28 am to Wolf Messing
quote:LOL
Can you put yourself in someone else position and try to see their viewpoint? t
Yep
quote:
that everything you post is in return mocked or criticized for 2 straight pages until you can get to that one post that actually is trying to discuss the topic in a mature manner?
People are responding to you in THIS thread.........a thread specifically started to kinda make fun of you and yet, THIS THREAD counters your claim.
quote:
I know it's a message board, so I don't expect to get logical replies back, but I can see how some people would get tired of it and view it as a waste of time to even try to explain their opinion when you know what it will lead to.
Again, it's only a ton of us and a few of you because for some weird reason, despite the fact that there are easily 100 of you on this board, only about 10 show at one time.
Things that make you go hmmmmmm
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:28 am to VADawg
quote:
I have not once seen a legitimate competing viewpoint that is actually worth a shite. If any lib on this board could come up with something more intelligent than just calling him a racist, sexist, misogynist, or any other progressive buzzword (without anything to support those claims, I might add), they might get a legitimate response.
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