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re: Anti-2nd Amendment Trump
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:32 pm to mudshuvl05
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:32 pm to mudshuvl05
Gutsy post.
Guilty on all counts. (although he may not actually "hate" the 2a; he just doesn't support it.)
Of course a more extensive list could easily be assembled of confusing and bad policy positions and priorities ; broken and unfulfilled promises; duplicitous nonsense and stalling on everything that matters. Tossed bones and lollipops are all we'll ever get. Now Emperor Trum is in the process of running major America-Firsters out of town. Can't give him any benefit of doubt an longer.
DJT is a salesman, an asset, actor ("from Central Casting") and Trojan Horse. Always has been. This explains a lot.
There has been so many unbelievable acts & scenes and scripts of Kabuki Theater involving the guy since 2015 I wouldn't know where to start.
And now he doesn't care what anyone thinks. The Emperor has been ever more erratic in behavior, sloppy with words, and an arrogant, nasty person. In his defense, he has not ever been calling the shots. This first became obvious during 2020's sudden, unnecessary, ridiculous lockdowns (demanded by WHO), demolition of businesses, and psyop chaos.
Bottom line here -- since Day One this year Trump's handlers been setting up going to shove the AI Global Governance, surveillance tracking systems, Digital ID and dollar down our throats -- and most of MAGA will lick the spoon. "Making America Great" was an empty rallying cry, nothing more.
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Trump is an anti-2nd Amendment, sackless, controlled opposition, limousine liberal who cozies up to communists in the white house. He's not right wing, but he is a damn good liar who loves the H1Bs and hates the 2nd amendment.
Guilty on all counts. (although he may not actually "hate" the 2a; he just doesn't support it.)
Of course a more extensive list could easily be assembled of confusing and bad policy positions and priorities ; broken and unfulfilled promises; duplicitous nonsense and stalling on everything that matters. Tossed bones and lollipops are all we'll ever get. Now Emperor Trum is in the process of running major America-Firsters out of town. Can't give him any benefit of doubt an longer.
DJT is a salesman, an asset, actor ("from Central Casting") and Trojan Horse. Always has been. This explains a lot.
There has been so many unbelievable acts & scenes and scripts of Kabuki Theater involving the guy since 2015 I wouldn't know where to start.
And now he doesn't care what anyone thinks. The Emperor has been ever more erratic in behavior, sloppy with words, and an arrogant, nasty person. In his defense, he has not ever been calling the shots. This first became obvious during 2020's sudden, unnecessary, ridiculous lockdowns (demanded by WHO), demolition of businesses, and psyop chaos.
Bottom line here -- since Day One this year Trump's handlers been setting up going to shove the AI Global Governance, surveillance tracking systems, Digital ID and dollar down our throats -- and most of MAGA will lick the spoon. "Making America Great" was an empty rallying cry, nothing more.
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Trump:
We're going to take the firearms first and then go to court, because that's another system. Because a lot of times by the time you go to court ... it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early
If this were the Potato or Kenyan, the Praetorians would have gone ballistic and never forgotten it.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:50 pm to wackatimesthree
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That’s what you get when you go in for populism. There’s no consistent guiding principle.
There needs to be some "guiding principle" and focus based on campaign promises (from BOTH 2016 and 2024) at minimum.
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Trump is conservative on some things and very liberal on others. That’s populism.
Running on "Populism" does confer a "deal" with those who voted for him (by and large conservative-centrist.) We expect some satisfactory policy and agenda accomplishments. NOT a full-on Neocon-liberal agenda.
He's trending badly, becoming more erratic with respect to personal behavior and policies. His laser focus on setting us up with "investments" in AI Data Centers is setting up mandated AI Digital Everything -- ID, Dollar, Surveillance, and Registration for all services and records.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:56 pm to mudshuvl05
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The social credit system is Trump's infatuation with Palantir (owned his staunch supporter Peter Thiel) and their data collection on Americans. Using AI to catalog the American citizenry's information is sleep walking your way into a social credit score system.
Such a system is a prized "step 1" in the process of stripping 2nd amendment rights from citizens because of their social score by the police state. If Trump and his DOJ have been consistent, it's on the issue of the 2nd Amendment and having no problem eroding it. If the democrat party has been consistent, it's that they'll expand any big gov endeavor once they take power. Communists being in charge of your social credit score is a nightmare for the Bill of Rights, and you can bet your arse they'll start with the 2nd amendment.
This is an interesting observation, assertion and game-plan theory. We are tracking as a police state, no doubt. We need to keep a preemptive eye out on any and all possible 2a legislation.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:06 pm to deltaland
Controlled opposition to appease the right.
All spot on.
Regarding swamp creatures who are trotted out as "YOU'RE NEXT -- WE COMIN FO YOU!" -- yup, a total crock. And judges and alphabet agencies who obstructed and jumped the shark? Jacksquat will happen to anyone and everyone involved because.... nothing was real , including the mock prosecutions.
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Notice how in big cases where he tries to prosecute people like Comey he uses inexperienced prosecutors who botch the whole thing so a judge tosses it? There have been no serious arrests or prosecutions of the swamp creatures.
Continues to do Israel’s bidding
Regime change in motion in Venezuela
Continues to support Ukraine
Massive deficits and continues big spending
Tried to prevent release of Estein files
Goes after and destroys real conservatives while buddying up to the likes Lindsay Graham
Supports H1B and other immigration programs
All spot on.
Regarding swamp creatures who are trotted out as "YOU'RE NEXT -- WE COMIN FO YOU!" -- yup, a total crock. And judges and alphabet agencies who obstructed and jumped the shark? Jacksquat will happen to anyone and everyone involved because.... nothing was real , including the mock prosecutions.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:13 pm to Hognutz
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Trump is a Trojan Horse. How so many still refuse to see it I have no idea.
They might see the indicators but aren't ready to believe it. It's "cognitive dissonance (or "confirmation bias"); This is just not going to be a popular opinion here or with MAGA. By the time they realize what's going on, it's too late, damage done, mission accomplished.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:25 pm to Penrod
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do you think all of the prosecutions were just for show and they arranged for him to turn his head just at the right moment so that only his ear would be nicked? And the civil suit and $80 million (?) award?
Sure were amazing coincidences and some TV-like drama stuff.
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I don’t think he’s controlled opposition; I just think Israel is part of the coalition he needed to win. And regime change in Venezuela is just a great idea and a great bargain for America.
Neither is necessary nor part of what America First signed up for. We signed up for NO WAR (and instead the promise of immediate extrication from Ewe-Krain).
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The massive spending and deficits are just things he has little control over.
Nonsense. He even named it, "Big Beautiful Bill" (Imo to mock detractors)
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:32 pm to EphesianArmor
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Neither is necessary nor part of what America First signed up for. We signed up for NO WAR (and instead the promise of immediate extrication from Ewe-Krain).
You think you are the first voter to not get everything you wanted? Politicians have to lie to become President. They have to trick some people into voting for them. Trump tricked you on a few things. That does not make him controlled opposition.
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Nonsense. He even named it, "Big Beautiful Bill" (Imo to mock detractors)
I don’t have time to educate you on civics, but Trump can’t just pass whatever bill he wants to.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:42 pm to Penrod
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I don’t have time to educate you on civics, but Trump can’t just pass whatever bill he wants to.
Presidents traditionally direct their vision for campaign promises, policy, agenda and legislative direction. His party (usually) follows suit.
This President has largely gone rogue. His agenda is advancing Globalism. What's he doing to stop the WEF and UN Agenda 2030?
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Politicians have to lie to become President....Trump tricked you on a few things.
So word and promises of a President who ran on a pro-domestic agenda and 'MAGA!!" should be discarded as worthless?
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:34 pm to EphesianArmor
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So word and promises of a President who ran on a pro-domestic agenda and 'MAGA!!" should be discarded as worthless?
Reagan said he would abolish the Department of Education.
Bush said “No new taxes.”
Clinton said, “I did not have an improper relationship with that woman.”
Bush the younger said that Iraq had WMD.
Obama said, “You can keep your doctor.”
Biden said he was powerless to stop the illegals without a new law.
Trump said…well, I’ll let you fill that out.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 11:16 pm to Jugbow
Better start preparing your bunker. Good grief some of yall flame over the smallest of issues that never end up happening. This has been said before every year for as long as I can remember. Dems could have done it in 2020 and it never happened.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:03 am to mudshuvl05
So, we should dump Trump and vote for whom? You do realize how many guns are out there in the hands of a rouge Marxist demographic, no? Do you think that debate and voting via a Muh Democracy’ can settle issues wherein the basic issue is one whereby each nullifies the other? The Constitutional Republic nullified pure Democracy and that is why the Left hates it.
Trump is a Capitalist above all. He and most of us know what is coming. A confrontation as the traditional compromise via debate/voting in our Constitutional Republic System becomes dysfunctional and even further infuriates the populace and throws gas in the disunity fire.
Maybe ‘dictator’ Trump is looking for a legal basis to take guns out of the hands of those who oppose his Capitalist Authoritarian government. No matter, just like dumping the Filibuster, the Dems will do it anyway.
We can pick our poison, it will necessarily be CONTROL from one side or the other. Times and the population has radically changed. This ship has sailed. Jesus couldn’t bring the folk together; that is why he comes AFTER a lot kill each other off. Mother Nature runs the show when Wisdom can’t.
This said, Trump had best leave the guns alone and just hammer the violent criminals. Clinton/Reno should ring a bell.
Trump is a Capitalist above all. He and most of us know what is coming. A confrontation as the traditional compromise via debate/voting in our Constitutional Republic System becomes dysfunctional and even further infuriates the populace and throws gas in the disunity fire.
Maybe ‘dictator’ Trump is looking for a legal basis to take guns out of the hands of those who oppose his Capitalist Authoritarian government. No matter, just like dumping the Filibuster, the Dems will do it anyway.
We can pick our poison, it will necessarily be CONTROL from one side or the other. Times and the population has radically changed. This ship has sailed. Jesus couldn’t bring the folk together; that is why he comes AFTER a lot kill each other off. Mother Nature runs the show when Wisdom can’t.
This said, Trump had best leave the guns alone and just hammer the violent criminals. Clinton/Reno should ring a bell.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 2:10 pm to EphesianArmor
Yep, exactly as AI probably stated it would go. Everything is game planned.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 6:01 pm to Hognutz
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Exactly as AI probably stated it would go.
Everything is game planned.
AI called this?
The playbook scripts seem to getting sloppier but more bold.
The Planners reckon if so few are calling out our WWE-WH star, the cast, and never ending event shenanigans, they'll just keep laughing while catapulting even more nonsense. 2026 is gonna be a doozie.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:04 am to EphesianArmor
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by and large conservative-centrist
Nope.
If you are in favor of tariffs (which Trump has been talking about for around 30 years, not just during his campaign), you are not conservative. Again, the only other candidate campaigning on tariffs in 2016 was Bernie Sanders.
If you defended Trump in pioneering the federal government to buy into private businesses, you are not conservative...that's actual socialism.
If you cheered when Trump dangled "no tax on tips, no tax on SS" during the campaign, you are not conservative. That's something Jimmy Carter or Bernie Sanders would have done.
Trump is not especially conservative on abortion or the 2nd Amendment and he's really not fiscally conservative regarding government spending.
He has always responded like a mature adult when it comes to foreign policy, which—given the language you're using here—I'm assuming you are a Huckster Carlson bot who wants an isolationist pussy in the WH.
But other than the federal government owning part of a private business (that one did come out of the blue as far as I know), every one of those things was predictable.
He has a history of being weak or even somewhat anti-2nd amendment, he's flip flopped about abortion a million times...it's obvious that he doesn't care about it and just flows whatever way the wind blows. He bombed Syria not once but twice in his first term and assassinated an Iranian general, probably in violation of international law.
Nothing he's doing now should be any surprise to anyone with the one notable exception of going full-on-dictionary-definition-socialist (and even that one isn't an actual surprise, though it may have been unprecedented).
He's a populist. He's THE populist.
What that means is that there are no principles behind what he says and does. He just does whatever he feels like doing whenever he feels like doing it. That's populism. That's what you voted for.
A conservative in the context of modern America acts in accordance with whatever will produce more freedom and responsibility, shrink government, strengthen American foreign policy positions, reduce government involvement in the economy, reduce government spending, etc.
There are guiding principles for conservatism.
Where people like you get confused is when you say things like, "Well George Bush was a conservative and John McCain was a conservative and they didn't act according to those principles, so I'm mad and want to blow up the Republican Party and have a whole new Republican Party based on populism, because obviously conservatism failed."
If George Bush, John McCain, and anyone else you want to name didn't abide by those principles, then they WEREN'T conservatives, by definition. They just claimed to be.
I get why that's maddening. It pissed me off for most of my life as well.
But it's frankly stupid to get mad because the politicians you elect aren't conservative enough, so your genius conclusion is to abandon conservatism altogether.
And it's even more stupid to elect a populist and then get mad when he doesn't act like a conservative. It's one thing to elect someone who claims to be conservative and then get mad when they don't act that way.
It's another thing to elect someone who really never claimed to be conservative (remember how Trump was a Democrat, then an Independent, then a Republican, then a Reform Party member, then a Republican again?) and who espoused several very anti-conservative ideas and then get mad because HE doesn't act like a conservative.
Trump is being very consistent with what he's always promoted.
Finally—and again, I could be wrong, but examining some of the language you've used—it's probable that some of the things you think are "conservative," really aren't.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:33 am to wackatimesthree
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given the language you're using here—I'm assuming you are a Huckster Carlson bot who wants an isolationist pussy in the WH.
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He has a history of being weak or even somewhat anti-2nd amendment, he's flip flopped about abortion a million times...He's a populist. He's THE populist....That's what you voted for.
I didn't vote for that. Or his Day One advocacy for Big Tech Control. Constant foreign military intervention; Awarding and financing Big Pharm to re-inject poisons; 600k Chynese "students"; a co-partnership with Israel and"Anti-Semitic" laws. America didn't vote for any of that.
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What that means is that there are no principles behind what he says and does. He just does whatever he feels like doing whenever he feels like doing it.
Truth. You're right -- Trump is unprincipled. But personally he's also a moral relativist who blows like the wind publicly. That's troubling. But on policy and agendas he takes his cues from his handlers (oh yes -- he has handlers! ) This will disappoint many who've been fooled, but he's a puppet and Trojan Horse globalist. I didn't vote for that either.
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A conservative in the context of modern America acts in accordance with whatever will produce more freedom and responsibility, shrink government, strengthen American foreign policy positions, reduce government involvement in the economy, reduce government spending, etc. There are guiding principles for conservatism.
IOW, NOT what Trump is doing. At all.
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frankly stupid to get mad because the politicians you elect aren't conservative enough, so your genius conclusion is to abandon conservatism altogether.
Who abandoning consvervatism?
Neither Trump or the GOP are implementing conservative governance. THEY have abandoned US.
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Trump is being very consistent with what he's always promoted.
Not accurate at all. He's whiffed all over the place. His policies and agenda are NOT "America First" as he promised; they are Big Globalist, Big AI Surveillance Tech, Big Pharm, Big Corporation, Big Biometric ID, Big Israel, and Big Chaos.
What he has accomplished are the small things. Policy trinkets & beads. Lollipops and chicken bones.
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Finally—and again, I could be wrong, but examining some of the language you've used—it's probable that some of the things you think are "conservative," really aren't.
Possibly. But like what exactly?
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