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re: Anyone care to explain how the Russians interfered in our election?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:13 am to antibarner
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:13 am to antibarner
They distributed red pills to everyone in the form of the truth. Thats even if it was Russia that hacked the emails of these corrupt people and then leaked it to wikileaks.
What matters is the content of the leaks not the leaker.
What matters is the content of the leaks not the leaker.
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:13 am to antibarner
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The FBI and NSA heads have stated under oath that no votes were changed, no machines hacked or tampered with. Nothing.
No they haven't my friend...they have said there is no evidence of that YET...the investigation is ongoing....
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John Podesta's e mails were released, along with some from DNC. Wikileaks said the Russians were not the source and I have seen nothing that proves that they were other than suspicion and supposition. Not to mention the e mails were authentic and not doctored or altered. Is THIS what they claim changed the election results? Bull shite.
I doubt that changed a single vote, or worst case not very many. The country is sharply divided as it is and each side was pretty much locked in. The true blame lies in the I got this one in the bag attitude of the MSM and the Clinton campaign. They know how to choke one away that is for sure and they now have a proven track record of it.
To those screaming collusion, what were they colluding about? No votes were changed. No evidence of money changing hands or vote fraud initiated by any Russians. So just HOW did they steal this election?
All this is is a relentless smear and delegitimization campaign that smacks of near treason to me. Party above country.
Democrat Uber Alles.
The Trump campaign and it supporters sure as hell acted like the email mattered during the campaign....y'all certainly argued then that they proved Hillary wasn't fit to be president....and now you are claiming that not a single vote was changed?
So all of the tripe y'all were spewing about the proof in the emails that the press was in the tank for Hillary didn't change a single vote?
No Bernie Supporters voted for the green party or someone else when they found that the DNC worked against Sanders?
What you are saying is that not a single interview or press release or news story effected the election in the least....because none of those things hacked an election box.
This is serious shite and it is becoming abundantly clear that the Russians at least tried to influence the election. It may have been for the best this time but who knows what they do the next time around?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:13 am to skiptumahloo
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all prove
Nothing.
Troll
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:22 am to antibarner
It's all a gigantic head fake to distract from the fact that the Obama Administration at the highest levels, conducted illegal and unethical surveillance and shared that surveillance with political and media friends. Which would all be buried as soon as Hillary was sworn in. Except...
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:27 am to Lsupimp
As soon as Trump won , after they all cleaned the shite out of their undies, they strategized and decided on the "Trump=Putin" meme and left behind Deep State actors to drive the narrative and leak the disinformation. That so many are willing to risk so much on this speaks to the severity and prevalence of the criminal conspiracy. They are peddling as fast as they can and praying the distraction works and that nobody looks behind the curtain and that the MSM will continue to cover their crimes.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:28 am to AuburnTigers
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One of the gang of eight members said that Russia used sophisticated internet trolls that would flood peoples facebook fees and political chatrooms with "fake news". He went on to give an example of this fake news as Hillary receiving money from foreign governments
How is this any different from the Correct The Record people? When does that investigation begin?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:31 am to germandawg
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This is serious shite and it is becoming abundantly clear that the Russians at least tried to influence the election
1. What was the "fake news."
2. Do you think Russia hasn't tried to influence every Us election since the 1950's?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:32 am to antibarner
Libs are still butthurt.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:34 am to antibarner
The "influence campaign" that is being reported is absolutely hilarious. The fact that people are so simple minded to believe a Russian influence campaign but not believe an MSM influence campaign is a tad bit scary.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:41 am to antibarner
#NotMyScandal
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:41 am to antibarner
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Explain how the election was allegedly rigged. You can't.
He is talking about Hillary, so I would guess they rigged the election when Hillary colluded to make her the DNC nominee and not Bernie.
I am still a bit surprise at two things:
1. If influencing the election is so bad, why are they not going after Hillary and the DNC
2. Why are they not delving into Russian connections and Hillary, since we already know there are some connections due to her Uranium dealings.
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As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.
And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.
The whole article (By the new York Times, no less) is quite telling about how the Clinton's and Barack Obama circumvented rules and promises to line their own pockets and help the Russians to gain control of the world Uranium supply.
This paragraph clearly shows the conflict of intest and complicitness of Hillary R Clinton. While Secretary of State, her actions weakened our National Security....and that goes beyond Bengahzi.
Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 8:42 am
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:42 am to antibarner
The question everyone needs to be asking is if it was the Russians that hacked podesta and leaked the emails and compromised our election.
Then why was Obama saying that there is no way our elections can be hacked? Why was he saying this AFTER the podesta emails were already out?
Video of Obama before the election
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Then why was Obama saying that there is no way our elections can be hacked? Why was he saying this AFTER the podesta emails were already out?
Video of Obama before the election
LINK
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:44 am to BigD13
Wikileaks was our friend, once and for all we know that the media and the left are in collusion together. That's all the proof I needed, whatever they say now are lies. MAGA!!
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:54 am to antibarner
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Explain how the election was allegedly rigged. You can't.
The Left is apparently expanding the definition of "election rigging" to include "the exposing of election rigging".
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:58 am to antibarner
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I keep hearing the press lying with "the Russians hacked our election". That is a lie.
The FBI and NSA heads have stated under oath that no votes were changed, no machines hacked or tampered with. Nothing.
John Podesta's e mails were released, along with some from DNC. Wikileaks said the Russians were not the source and I have seen nothing that proves that they were other than suspicion and supposition. Not to mention the e mails were authentic and not doctored or altered. Is THIS what they claim changed the election results? bullshite.
Ok you guys really need to consume media from sources on the left and from the right. You have to try to understand the other side otherwise you can't ever have meaningful debate or conversation and will devolve into calling the other side stupid
But essentially yes, that is what the argument is.
The Left isn't saying that Russia changes votes or anything like that. The Left's claim is that the hacking of emails, internal documents, etc with the strategic release to damage Hillary's campaign was what swung the election to Trump.
They contend that Russia should be completely hands off and let only the American public make their decision and outside powers shouldn't overtly or subtly guide things one way or the other.
They also contend that the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia to do the dirty work and release this information to damage Hillary's campaign.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:59 am to ctalati32
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But essentially yes, that is what the argument is. The Left isn't saying that Russia changes votes or anything like that. The Left's claim is that the hacking of emails, internal documents, etc with the strategic release to damage Hillary's campaign was what swung the election to Trump. They contend that Russia should be completely hands off and let only the American public make their decision and outside powers shouldn't overtly or subtly guide things one way or the other. They also contend that the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia to do the dirty work and release this information to damage Hillary's campaign.
and to date have provided NO proof of ANYTHING!!
BUT, wikileaks provided us with FACTS on the collusion of the media and the left
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 9:02 am
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:03 am to BigD13
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The question everyone needs to be asking is if it was the Russians that hacked podesta and leaked the emails and compromised our election.
No, that qualifier is the problem. The question that should be being asked is "what's more compromising to our election process: election rigging or the exposing of election rigging?"
By following the false narrative of "RUSSIANSOMG!!111" instead of "a party's leadership knowingly and willfully rigged their own election," we focus instead on the messenger instead of the message.
The next question that should be in that line of thought is one I haven't seen anyone get to yet: "If the DNC/Podesta hacks hadn't happened, how detrimental to the democratic process would those same election-rigging techniques have been in the general election?"
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:04 am to DawgsLife
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1. If influencing the election is so bad, why are they not going after Hillary and the DNC
It was wrong, the DNC should not have put their finger on the scale and should have let the Dems pick their candidate. And this should be investigated and denounced for interfering with democracy.
However the DNC rigging things for Hillary is no where near the same ballpark as (if true, and we have no evidence to that at this time) if the Trump campaign colluded with a foreign government to to push the election one way or the other.
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2. Why are they not delving into Russian connections and Hillary, since we already know there are some connections due to her Uranium dealings
They should investigate that too. But she didn't win so people don't care about it as much. If everyone's cheating no one cares about the cheater who loses. Not that this is the right thing to do, but it's the reality
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:07 am to BigD13
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Video of Obama before the election
That video is gold...
"When you try to sow the seeds of doubt about the legitimacy of our elections, that undermines our democracy...."
Wow. He can talk the talk, but can't walk the walk. I love how all the people are behind him nodding their heads like a bunch of bobble head dolls. They are probably now the ones who are yelling loudest about Trump not being a legitimate President. And how he stole the election.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:08 am to ctalati32
What I love is how democrats and cucks frame this as a threat to our sacred political process, when in reality all that happened was that some piece of shite career politicians got exposed at the worst possible time, allowing voters to see behind the curtain before votes were cast. Who gives a shite if the Republican Party or Democratic Party gets exposed? Political parties and career politicians/political operatives are NOT sacred. In fact, the more transparency there is the BETTER it is for democracy. One party wants to cry foul because only their emails were leaked? Tough shite! How about you act in a way so that when your emails are released you don't have anything to worry about?
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