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re: Anyone else kind of creeped out right now re the election?
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:34 am to Scruffy
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:34 am to Scruffy
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So do you sincerely think that there is not a respected journalist in the western world who would not sale their soul to break a pizza gate type story?
Yes.
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You sincerely think that the entire western journalism world heard of these rumors and immediately dismissed them because they were fond of Hilary Clinton????
Yes.
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Every fricking one of them?
Yes.
We saw the same thing with her other "scandals" during the election.
This is where y'all lose me....and it is probably steeped in my being an atheist because I am very cynical about almost everything while y'alls ability to believe in supreme being allows you to accept all sorts of shite that may well be true but are not rational or logical...and, for the record, I envy that. It is tough going through life without believing in anything.
So you sincerely believe that there is a mass conspiracy consisting of millions of people working in the media industry in the western world whose aim it is to protect Bill and Hilary Clinton OR the United States establishment in general? That is not to mention the folks outside the western world who love nothing more than to bring the United States to its knees.
How does a person reach that conclusion? Millions of people working to maintain the status quo and none of them ever break rank....it is truly astonishing that anyone can buy that...yet many of you sincerely have.
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:34 am to baytiger
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I've openly mocked the idea for a long time and I'm starting to believe there might be something to it.
What new evidence...not claims..evidence, do you have that the election was somehow "hacked'? How were the results altered..hacked voting machines..absentee ballots..what?
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:36 am to germandawg
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Y'all don't like Clinton and Obama.....and you have legitimate reasons for that dislike...political differences alone are reason enough...but why do we feel the need to get emotionally involved? Why do we need Pizza Gates to solidify our dislike for someones politics? Our need to be emotionally involved is going to lead to our downfall....
Because 20 years ago accusing the Catholic church of this would have been career suicide. No one would have believed you and we would be having this same conversation about that topic.
I don't believe pizzagate is real, but again, there is smoke and I would prefer someone look into it. Perhaps they are looking into it, I don't follow the topic closely.
BUT, I find it disturbing that our media is willing to dismiss anything simply because it's "Conspiracy". If there is smoke, investigate, 95% of the time it's probably nothing, but at least you made an effort.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:44 am to germandawg
Yet they ran out every Sally who claimed that Trump raped or molested them! Your analysis is sound and seems legit.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:46 am to Jbird
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His investigation to get to the truth
The Progs are royally screwed; they are throwing the kitchen sink in order to undermine Trump's political capital...but it won't work. The Blitzkrieg begins the minute Trump takes his hand off that Bible...and it continues in and through the '18 election. An election where the Dems must defend TWENTY-FIVE seats in the Senate, and with Trump lobbing personally derisive Tweetbombs at those Senators who 'obstructed' reform. I'm not creeped at all; and not surprised that patriotic Americans finally took care of business. I honestly think Obama's support of the Soros' paid, Cop-killing BLM, and importation/SUBSIDIZATION of Islamist terrorists was the last straw. It exposed the Progs/Dems...and now they are left with the Urban population crowd, of the which Trump will pull their funding and squeeze the Leadership.
Sidenote: Somebody that watched 60 Minutes last night ought to start a Thread re that guy in Columbia who did the advertising campaign and virtually turned that war torn Country around. The man is brilliant; and Trump needs to get him on board asap!
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:49 am to SidewalkDawg
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Because 20 years ago accusing the Catholic church of this would have been career suicide. No one would have believed you and we would be having this same conversation about that topic.
There were plenty of people who knew beyond doubt 20 years ago that the Catholic Church as chock a bock full of pedophiles and were saying so unequivocally. There were hundreds of thousands of victims world wide and many known instances of charges being brought in the US and priests being moved from one parish to the next because they couldn't keep their hands off the kids. This has been known for much longer than 20 years. The fact that Catholics didn't want to talk about it and were in fact more or less accepting of the practice that kept it from being a "crime". It was well known to anyone who could read....
You should be able to extrapolate from life experience and competing for business in whatever you do for a living and come to the conclusion that this:
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our media is willing to dismiss anything simply because it's "Conspiracy". If there is smoke, investigate, 95% of the time it's probably nothing, but at least you made an effort.
Never happened. Someone somewhere in the VAST western media industry did do more than dismiss this story....because to break such a story would make Berns and Woodard look like gossip comumnists for an 8 page weekly.....there was and is nothing there for the mainstream media to report other than the fact that so many people believe a conspiracy of this sort is possible...and, by the way, that fact, that so many people think a conspiracy of this sort is possible (Pizza gate and the entire western world's press covering it up) is much more damaging to society than the accusations leveled against the pedphiles....
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:55 am to Volmanac
No, you absolutely are insane.
Get this man a safe space! Oh, and grow the frick up!
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ust fearful for my own safety.
Get this man a safe space! Oh, and grow the frick up!
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:57 am to Scoop
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It feels like there is a conglomeration of the media, the Dems and the Republican establishment types to actually usurp the election and take a run at doing some crazy shite.
Kind of. But it's both sides for me. I'm largely on Trump's side, but it's not as fun when all he's doing is making weird nominations and going on twitter rants like a 14 year old.
Plus, I worry that you guys, in response to bias from MSM and the Dems, are going to your battle stations and are just so locked in to whatever Trump and Breitbart want to do that you'll celebrate and promote anything that is anti- MSM/Dem/establishment, even when you know it is problematic.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:00 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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p. All we need is a reason to wipe these anti-americans out
This.
We need to start rounding these people up. It'll be easy to convert freight cars and move them by rail in a humane manner. We need to find an inhospitable area to put them all so they'll be totally dependent on what we as decent people give them to live on. Hopefully one day some of them can join us and be productive members of society but I doubt any of them are redeemable.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:04 am to bencoleman
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We need to start rounding these people up. It'll be easy to convert freight cars and move them by rail in a humane manner. We need to find an inhospitable area to put them all so they'll be totally dependent on what we as decent people give them to live on. Hopefully one day some of them can join us and be productive members of society but I doubt any of them are redeemable.
From anyone else this would obviously be tongue and cheek. Since it's you, I can't be 100% sure. I'm sure you knew that, so bravo, well done
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:05 am to germandawg
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This is where y'all lose me....and it is probably steeped in my being an atheist because I am very cynical about almost everything while y'alls ability to believe in supreme being allows you to accept all sorts of shite that may well be true but are not rational or logical...and, for the record, I envy that. It is tough going through life without believing in anything. So you sincerely believe that there is a mass conspiracy consisting of millions of people working in the media industry in the western world whose aim it is to protect Bill and Hilary Clinton OR the United States establishment in general? That is not to mention the folks outside the western world who love nothing more than to bring the United States to its knees. How does a person reach that conclusion? Millions of people working to maintain the status quo and none of them ever break rank....it is truly astonishing that anyone can buy that...yet many of you sincerely have.
There are things of a Spiritual/Abstract nature, gd, that are essentially SUBJECTIVE; perception is reality...and in the eye of the beholder. Love and Beauty are at the top; if you don't believe and cultivate belief in those two...they cease to exist. At great loss to the perceiver.
You might enjoy examining the philosophical argument re the above in William James' "The Will to Believe".
Re Pizzagate...just start with Pedo Island - which we know exists, with both Clintons involved - and go from there. Realizing that high-ups who may have been compromised (kinky sex blackmail) will try to unite and block any comprehensive Investigation with all abandon. Make it high-profile, and put the CHILD abuse thing front and center. Watch em' squirm, and witness the dominoes start falling. No one should fear the truth...lest they are part of a lie.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:20 am to germandawg
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it is probably steeped in my being an atheist because I am very cynical about almost everything while y'alls ability to believe in supreme being allows you to accept all sorts of shite that may well be true but are not rational or logical.
You don't know my religious views and my statement was the very definition of cynical.
quote:Mass conspiracy? No.
So you sincerely believe that there is a mass conspiracy consisting of millions of people working in the media industry in the western world whose aim it is to protect Bill and Hilary Clinton OR the United States establishment in general?
Confirmation bias? Abso-fricking-lutely.
We already know for a fact that the journalism industry is heavily leftist, to the point of being 95-98% leftist.
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That is not to mention the folks outside the western world who love nothing more than to bring the United States to its knees.
Also part of that same confirmation bias group.
Trump being the opposing candidate probably exacerbated that mindset.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:24 am to Scoop
Dude on fox Ralph peters just calls it coup of the century for Putin. He don't like mr Exxon either
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 9:25 am
Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:45 pm to RCDfan1950
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Re Pizzagate...just start with Pedo Island - which we know exists, with both Clintons involved - and go from there. Realizing that high-ups who may have been compromised (kinky sex blackmail) will try to unite and block any comprehensive Investigation with all abandon. Make it high-profile, and put the CHILD abuse thing front and center. Watch em' squirm, and witness the dominoes start falling. No one should fear the truth...lest they are part of a lie.
Yes...we know that Little St. James Island exists and belongs to Epstein who is a a convicted sex offender having been convicted of solicitation. We know that Bill and Hillary Clinton, along with a host of people from both sides of the political aisle as well as wealthy, influential people from every industry and center of power known in the western world, have been to Little St James.....we do not know that there is a pedophilia ring there and that it is the draw...everything else is speculation...
Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:47 pm to germandawg
quote:We do?
f people from both sides of the political aisle
Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:49 pm to Scoop
If that happens, the country would go through so much instability it may never recover. I doubt it will happen.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:50 pm to Scoop
I'm a little annoyed that anyone would take this Russian stuff seriously rather than treating it like the fake news media melt that it is.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:00 pm to Scruffy
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So you sincerely believe that there is a mass conspiracy consisting of millions of people working in the media industry in the western world whose aim it is to protect Bill and Hilary Clinton OR the United States establishment in general?
Mass conspiracy? No.
Well thank goodness for that....
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Confirmation bias? Abso-fricking-l
So it is scandlous that people in the media tend to interpret new evidence as confirmation of their existing beliefs or theories....but people on the right and outside of the media do not do this? It is human nature my friend...and the only way it could be a problem is if this were remotely true...
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We already know for a fact that the journalism industry is heavily leftist, to the point of being 95-98% leftist.
We do not know this as a fact because it can't possible be a fact. 95% of journalists (actually closer to 100%) work for for profit corporations...as such they are subject to the demand that said corporation make a profit...and part of that profit results from advertising from companies who are owned by wealthy folks who have a tendency to be conservative. The corporations are also owned by the same kind of wealthy people and they own all sorts of other businesses and have interests in all sorts of businesses that would be in conflict with liberal or leftist ideology. The only reason y'all
quote:is because you want to know it for a fact and you are guilty of confirmation bias.
know for a fact that the journalism industry is heavily leftist
If y'all sincerely know for a fact that the media is comprised of 95% leftists then you are stating, unequivocally, that the free market does not work.
If the "liberal bias" in the media is indeed a problem for the right and has been for all of my 51 years and y'all haven't found a solution yet then your side is incompetent.
The ancillary effects of this liberal media accusation is much more damaging to the legitimacy of the right than the perceived liberal media is...your free market doesn't work and your side is imcompetent to solve a 51 year old debilitating situation....If I were on y'all side I would much prefer to go about claiming the media was only biased toward profitability than free markets don't work and the right is incompetent...
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:21 pm to germandawg
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The ancillary effects of this liberal media accusation is much more damaging to the legitimacy of the right than the perceived liberal media is...your free market doesn't work and your side is imcompetent to solve a 51 year old debilitating situation....If I were on y'all side I would much prefer to go about claiming the media was only biased toward profitability than free markets don't work and the right is incompetent...
Palms are being greased by those in power. There is no longer any credibility in media. There is plenty of right wing media, they are just considered "fringe" by the limp wristers
Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:59 pm to germandawg
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a large number of American pretend to think that the mainstream media is less trustworthy than hackers and facebook "journalists".
Hands up, don't shoot.
You have clearly not been paying attention for the last several years. The MSM is at the point where they make shite up and then send out the talking points to the other MSM branches. 50% propaganda.
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