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SidewalkDawg
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re: Will Universal, High Income Work?
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/17/26 at 10:32 am to statman34
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There is zero chance anyone with power lets that happen and that is why this is doomed to cause mass chaos. If everyone had everything they needed they absolutely would need less people to even remotely make it work and even then they wouldnt allow everyone to live this way. It's impossible with our way of thinking.
AI will cure needing, it will never cure wanting. Luckily, the elites won't need to mass exterminate us. Once the necessities are covered and those without the will to seek purpose on their own begin to fall into hedonistic pleasure cycles, that problem takes care of itself rapidly.
Humanity can't be saved this way.
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re: Will Universal, High Income Work?
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/17/26 at 10:10 am to NIH
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How naive are you, son?
1. I'm not saying this is going to happen.
2. There are literally thousands of reasons it could fail such as AI alignment issues, flawed execution, etc.
3. I'm simply pointing out that Musk isn't painting a picture where we simply print money and redistribute it.
re: Will Universal, High Income Work?
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/17/26 at 10:01 am to BigPerm30
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Why are they trying to remarket welfare as HIGH Universal Income? Just pay everyone $1million a month. That’ll pull everyone out of poverty…
That's not what Musk is saying or suggesting. Think of it this way.
Socialism and Communism always fail because they attack the problem by trying to redistribute wealth, but fail to increase the production of goods and services (due to various human nature pitfalls, greed, sloth, etc.). Musk is saying the inverse, that we will increase the production of goods and services and as a result, wealth will increase. Wealth multiplies for all, your savings buy more, not less because production outruns money supply.
re: Will Universal, High Income Work?
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/17/26 at 9:48 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Poverty is unsolvable because it is categorized as the lowest economic rung based on certain percentages. There will always be a bottom percentage group no matter what.
This is characterized by Tocqueville in Democracy in America. As long as some have what others do not, there will be "Poverty". AI won't fix that anytime soon. AI could solve the issue of Labor and Production of goods could skyrocket. But the Elites would pivot to things that are truly finite like Land, Rare experiences, Preferential/Premium treatments. In the future, Front row seats at a concert could be viewed with the same level of disgust as Slavery due to the perceived injustice that results from Tocqueville's observations.
re: Will Universal, High Income Work?
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/17/26 at 9:35 am to TheHarahanian
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Call it inflation or whatever you like, but when money is freely distributed, money will become value-less.
So if you want to devalue your life’s savings, go right ahead.
Money is a substitute for finite resources, namely Labor and Materials. You're assuming that money freely given will continue to chase finite things. The future suggested by Musk is that those Finite things will be extremely abundant.
re: Will Universal, High Income Work?
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/17/26 at 7:41 am to NIH
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It’s simpler than that. People need purpose. The summer of love is what happens when people sit around bored.
I think we overestimate how much purpose people get from their jobs. Most people sit at their job and collect a paycheck because they have to. They aren't deriving any grand purpose from it. It's a means to live the life they want.
There are genuinely people that do get purpose from their job though. From my experience those people worry little about the pay, it's about something bigger than that for them.
No hope for the future is what causes revolutions.
re: Will Universal, High Income Work?
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/17/26 at 6:48 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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Plenty of pieces remain
You are right, i'm oversimplifying to assess the point the OP is making and assuming things like AI alignment are solved. But that risk of AI doing it's own thing in the future still exists. I'm only asking the question "If all other conditions are met, could humanity cope with a UBI and the automation of all production?"
re: Will Universal, High Income Work?
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/17/26 at 6:07 am to AlterEd
I've thought about this a lot. We are essentially about to fully implement a socialist system. But im still not sure that it will result in the dystopian outcomes of the past. Human nature is always the reason socialism and communism fail. There is no incentive to produce in a system where most benefit without contributing. But that's the rub... If AI and robotics will do the producing for us, the incentive problem of production is solved. The only piece that remains is the question of meaning. Can humans find purpose and meaning in a world that suddenly doesnt require your labor? I think most can if enough traversible hierarchies exist and allow social status gains.
re: Underrated movie quotes
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/9/26 at 1:34 pm to Hennigan
Okay. You people sit tight, hold the fort and keep the home fires burning. And if we’re not back by dawn… call the president.
re: Is Trump leaving Iran too early? Is leaving the current leadership in place a good idea?
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/8/26 at 9:15 am to TDsngumbo
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They'll be hellbent on attacking America going forward, more than they ever were before. Gotta kill off all of them before leaving.
Nothing changes regarding their intent. Before the strikes they lacked only the technology to inflict mass death, not the will. After the strikes we've set them back from having that technology even further. Their will to destroy the West remains unchanged.
re: Reza Pahlavi calls upon Iran's Military to "Defend with Honor" Iran from the evil IRGC!!
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/8/26 at 9:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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This guy's family led a brutal dictatorship that led to the 1979 revolution.
Why would we ever think using him as a figurehead is smart?
SAVAK was pretty brutal by western standards. But keep in mind that the Shah was trying to keep a very fragmented country together. He was king of a large religiously diverse population which had weak democratic instiatuions. SAVAK did bad things, but pale in comparison to the islamic regime currently in power.
re: Texas' Indian Invasion - Full Documentary
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/8/26 at 8:48 am to The Torch
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re: FBI Director is preparing to formally announce CRIMINAL CHARGES against Barack Obama.
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/8/26 at 6:43 am to 1BIGTigerFan
Maybe add "rumor" to your title? I dont understand why people like to sensationalize on a forum where they dont get any money for clicks.
re: Trump with a message for the remaining regime leaders - trolling Mullahs
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 4/5/26 at 8:24 am to theunknownknight
Allah means God in Arabic. It's used by Arab Christians also. It's not some separate deity
. It is the God of Abraham.
. It is the God of Abraham.
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 3/12/26 at 11:21 am to omegaman66
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Phase 1: destroy the IRGC's ability to attack outside of its country. 90ish% complete.
Phase 2: destroy the IRGC's infrastructure so they have no way to effectively manage anything. 90ish% complete. Probably and underestimate.
Phase 3: Kill the IRGC foot soldiers so that they flee and desert in fear of their lives. Currently underway.
Phase 4: Enable groups within Iran to hunt down the IRGC or fight those that refuse to surrender or flee.
Phase 5: Bring in the new Iranian leaders (former over thrown Royal family.
Other than special ops no boots on the ground needed by us.
This is pretty much how I see this playing out.
Reza Pahlavi doens't go from exile prince in the background and an outspoken opponent of forced regime change in Iran to calling for regime change and asking his people to wait for his "Call".
This has all the hallmarks of a US/Israel coordinated attempt at regime change. Reza has to appear independent and organically selected by the Iranians for this to work, that is why Trump hasn't endorsed him as the choice. Reza still has to do his part, which is mobilize the support of the Iranians in Iran to his cause.
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 3/11/26 at 10:28 am to Tiger985
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Looking more and more like this regime of butchers will survive.
Iranian population is going to pay a high price in blood.
And in 6 months Israel will be screaming Iran is 30 days from a nuclear weapon.
What gives you this impression? US/Israel are still conducting airstrikes and have repeatedly asked the Iranian people to stay home (Also same message from Reza Pahlavi)
Let's see what happens when the strikes die down and the people are given the chance to rise up.
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 3/11/26 at 9:58 am to hawgfaninc
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Mojtaba Khamenei, the newly appointed Supreme Leader of Iran, suffered a fractured foot, a bruise around his left eye, as well as minor lacerations to his face, after a failed assassination attempt on the first day of the U.S. and Israel’s bombardment campaign against Tehran, a source familiar with the situation told CNN.
That's interesting framing "Failed assassaination attempt". What about the other people successfully killed in the "Attempt" like the Former Ayatollah Khamenei?
re: A simple solution to opening up Straits of Hormuz
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 3/8/26 at 11:46 am to Trevaylin
Threats from Iran aren't really why the straits are closed. Lloyd's of London is refusing to insure the ships in the Straits. If Lloyd's would insure, the straits would open with security guarantees from the US.
re: IRGC Quds Force commander Esmail Qaani was either Mosad
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 3/6/26 at 6:19 pm to Night Vision
Judd Hirsch saving Iran wasnt on my bingo card
re: WaPo: Russia is providing Iran intelligence to target US forces, officials say
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 3/6/26 at 10:34 am to Lee B
A little late aren't they? I guess the irgc can throw rocks.
re: The new Ayatollah is reportedly dead already, supposedly, maybe, doubtful, but ...
Posted by SidewalkDawg on 3/6/26 at 6:02 am to Stidham8
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We’re not going to have to.
Our unrelenting aerial assault combined with Israel and the Mossad is more than enough.
Infrastructure isn't people. The strikes have been very effective, but if you want real change in Iran someone is going to have to put boots on the ground. I would hope in a few days we see a ramp down in airstrikes and an "organic" Iranian people's uprising.
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