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re: Banning vaccine passports - how is this a conservative / small government stance?

Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:05 pm to
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I actually agree with this. I fully believe a private company can do whatever it likes. Let some stupid places require vaccine passports in GA and FL and see how fast they change those requirements.
I guarantee you the cruise ships would be AT LEAST as full if Desantis "allowed" vaccine passports.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:05 pm to
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LSUfan20005


Which is why i explained to him, unless the entire airline industry was de-regulated, reformatted, and all airlines were broken up from their current monopolistic state, then his argument is moot.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:05 pm to
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Example? Having 2 kids in Catholic school, i can assure you, you don't have to be Catholic to attend.


Most Catholic schools will take anyone who can stroke a check.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:06 pm to
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But why do we need Gov DeSantis to make that decision for us?

Gotta keep the retards in check or else we will be overrun with your stupid policies. Yall take it too far ever single time. "liberals"
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39331 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:06 pm to
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didn't realize businesses could ask for you to get the flu vaccine before coming in their business.
Well, they can.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:07 pm to
Unless you want to apply these standards across the board (ADA, Civil Rights Act) and you can't prove these companies (Delta, Wal Mart, Kroger) aren't essentially extensions to the government themselves, then I am cool with it.

Problem is, we all know how it would go down if someone discriminated for any other reason other than covid vaccines. But I guess conservatives are supposed to just take it.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:07 pm to
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HIPPA
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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:07 pm to
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I guarantee you the cruise ships would be AT LEAST as full if Desantis "allowed" vaccine passports.




The people in favor of vaccine passports are the same people that still wear masks even after vaccinated. They won't be going on a cruise any time soon.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57428 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:07 pm to
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You haven't followed my post history very well, have you?


No, and i mean this kindly, you're not important to me.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:08 pm to
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You literally just said that freedom is the relationship between people and government. That is demonstrably false and foolish. Those are your ridiculous words not mine.


You can't be this dense... well maybe you are.

We are talking about laws and constitution here.

In terms of the bill of rights... freedom is based upon the relationship between government and people, not business and people.

I mean... "Congress shall make no law"... not "business shall make no rule..."
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:08 pm to
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It’s discrimination, I’m told that’s bad


But shouldn't we let the free market decide what is or isn't bad?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78958 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:08 pm to
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Also, businesses can't collude to administer these passports.


Why can’t they?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39331 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:08 pm to
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The people in favor of vaccine passports are the same people that still wear masks even after vaccinated. They won't be going on a cruise any time soon.
Lots of old Trump voters still don't want to die from the virus. Telling the cruise companies they can't use them is insane levels of big government.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:09 pm to
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Lots of old Trump voters still don't want to die from the virus.


They aren't scared of COVID dude. You're fricking delusional.
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Telling the cruise companies they can't use them is insane levels of big government.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57428 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:09 pm to
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Most Catholic schools will take anyone who can stroke a check.


That's not what you said, nor what i questioned. You stated:

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A private, for-profit, religious school can ban a child from attending if they don't abide by certain religious ideals.


What ideals? You seem to be making this up. A certain code of conduct is expected, and that's pretty much all private schools.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40638 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:09 pm to
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Defeat the left then we can talk about principles again.


Principals are how we defeat the left... abandoning principals leads us to try to be friends with the left, and where has that gotten us?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:10 pm to
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Principals are how we defeat the left...
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39331 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:10 pm to
Where specifically do you disagree with the OP? Why are you against a private business doing something like this?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:10 pm to
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Banning a private company for asking about a vaccine, in order to receive a good or service, is just as asinine as requiring a private company to ask about it, in order to receive a good or service.

For over a year, we've been yelling that businesses should be allowed to make their own decisions. Now... we think they have to be told what to do??



No private company should ever feel that have the right to even ask for their customer's medical records in order to simply do business, much less demand it.

On a small scale it would be one thing, but the fear driving this idea on a large scale means the consumer has a tough time escaping it and pressure from places like the Chamber of Commerce means it's only more likely to grow, not lessen.

So thanks, fear-porn loving businesses and government types, for proving once again that a large-scale laissez-faire economy simply cannot exist because assholes like you will always require a need for a governing body to hold you in fricking check.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40638 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:10 pm to
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Which is why i explained to him, unless the entire airline industry was de-regulated, reformatted, and all airlines were broken up from their current monopolistic state, then his argument is moot.



I'd support that in a heartbeat.

But we need to make progress where we can. We can't say "well, this won't work because that doesn't apply".
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