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re: Christian arrested while speaking on public sidewalk
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:51 pm to Dex Morgan
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:51 pm to Dex Morgan
He was using a loudspeaker. Otherwise, he in all likelihood would have had no problems.
They probably should just have given him a citation rather than making an arrest, but it does look like he refused to turn-off the loudspeaker.
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Be honest. If the person behind the mic' had been preaching Satanism or Wicca, would you be complaining?
They probably should just have given him a citation rather than making an arrest, but it does look like he refused to turn-off the loudspeaker.
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Be honest. If the person behind the mic' had been preaching Satanism or Wicca, would you be complaining?
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 2:55 pm
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:52 pm to Timeoday
quote:Against whom and on what theory of recovery. Please be specific. Thx.
Big time law suit potential.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:52 pm to Dex Morgan
Because arresting Christians for speaking will not create severe consequences. Most msm will ignore the story. Government will ignore it. There will be no massive outrage.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:54 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
He was using a loudspeaker. Otherwise, he in all likelihood would have had no problems.
Be honest. If the person behind the mic' had been preaching Satanism or Wicca, would you be complaining?
No, I wouldn't. As long as people aren't being a problem then I have no issue with what they are saying. And what does a microphone have to do with this? BLM literally had speakers stacked up spewing their hate and were never arrested.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:55 pm to Dex Morgan
quote:So, you are not arguing the First Amendment.
Be honest. If the person behind the mic' had been preaching Satanism or Wicca, would you be complaining?quote:
No, I wouldn't
What IS the basis of your argument?
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:59 pm to Don Quixote
Only if they lose.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:02 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
So, you are not arguing the First Amendment.
What IS the basis of your argument?
You are either a troll or your mental capacity isn't running on all six cylinders.
Of course this is a violation of the 1st Amendment.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:13 pm to AggieHank86
quote:The arresting officer(s) and the governmental entities that employ them.
Against whom and on what theory of recovery. Please be specific. Thx.
42 U.S. Code § 1983 - Civil action for deprivation of rights
Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:19 pm to Dex Morgan
quote:Eight, actually.
So, you are not arguing the First Amendment. What IS the basis of your argument?quote:
You are either a troll or your mental capacity isn't running on all six cylinders. Of course this is a violation of the 1st Amendment.
You specifically said that you would not be complaining if the kid had been preaching Satanism or Wicca. Both are religions, and both are protected under the First Amendment.
So, either you were arguing something other than the First Amendment, or you think that the First Amendment applies only the Christianity.
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you had some elementary understanding of the First Amendment. My bad.
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:26 pm to AggieHank86
quote:That very well could be the case. It depends on the local ordinances in effect. Many public places allow sound amplification up to a certain decibel level. I'm curious what the particular applicable statute lays out in this instance.
He was using a loudspeaker. Otherwise, he in all likelihood would have had no problems.
Even if there was a violation of a noise ordinance in this case, it's interesting how quickly the situation escalation in the video.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:32 pm to FooManChoo
quote:That speaker seemed pretty loud in the first video.
Even if there was a violation of a noise ordinance in this case, it's interesting how quickly the situation escalation in the video.
I looks to me like the first officer asked the kid to stop, and the kid kept preaching. Then the second officer came up and grabbed the mic' from him, escalating the situation. The second officer clearly could have handled the matter better, even if the kid was being uncooperative. For instance, the speaker almost-certainly had an off-switch.
I still think they should have just given him a citation and an instruction that he would be arrested if he continued.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:39 pm to Dex Morgan
What's extra scary is the number of police officers at that scene. I roughly counted 7+ including the other group of officers in the back ground.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:41 pm to Keltic Tiger
quote:Those temporary aluminum barricade things suggest to me that there was some event taking place or about to take place and that the large number of officers were on-hand for that.
What's extra scary is the number of police officers at that scene. I roughly counted 7+ including the other group of officers in the back ground.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:42 pm to Plx1776
quote:
Because arresting Christians for speaking will not create severe consequences. Most msm will ignore the story. Government will ignore it. There will be no massive outrage.
As Christians dont we already know this?
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:42 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
AggieHank86
You said
quote:
Be honest. If the person behind the mic' had been preaching Satanism or Wicca, would you be complaining?
Then Dex Morgan said
quote:
No, I wouldn't. As long as people aren't being a problem then I have no issue with what they are saying
Then you said
quote:
So, you are not arguing the First Amendment.
What IS the basis of your argument?
and then said
quote:
You specifically said that you would not be complaining if the kid had been preaching Satanism or Wicca. Both are religions, and both are protected under the First Amendment.
You sure about those eight cylinders??
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:44 pm to lsuguy84
We just can’t keep going unless you support the show.
Classic Tinkerbell salesmanship.
Classic Tinkerbell salesmanship.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:44 pm to rented mule
quote:yes
You sure about those eight cylinders??
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:46 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
yes
Your posting says otherwise.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:47 pm to Dex Morgan
There is no persecution of Christians. 
Prepare yourselves.
Prepare yourselves.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:47 pm to Dex Morgan
95%+ of cops are pieces of shite who will do whatever their boss tells them to do so they can keep their *barely* minimum wage job.
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