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Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:26 pm to Flats
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but they're government coercion, not the free market.
Well, good thing for the OP that 80% of cements used in the USA comes directly from the USA
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:31 pm to stout
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ChatGPT says you are lying
OK Bud, Canada and Mexico are not countries that are used to make up the 20 million ton shortfall. Spain is not a major exporter and has never been. Vietnam is new on the scene. Turkey has been the largest exporter of cement to the U.S. by far over the last 7 years. No Chinese cement is bering imported into the U.S. The real data is at USGS materials survey.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:34 pm to stout
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Well, good thing for the OP that 80% of cements used in the USA comes directly from the USA
And most of those companies are foreign owned and cannot produce enough cement to meet the demand. As such, the costs will remain high for everything related to concrete.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:36 pm to southofyou
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Canada and Mexico are not countries that are used to make up the 20 million ton shortfall.
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The real data is at USGS materials survey.
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Canada has been one of the top exporters of cement to the U.S. (~4.8–4.9 million t in 2024).
Mexico also supplies cement, though in smaller volume (~1.3–2.0 million t).
Combined, Canada and Mexico accounted for roughly ~7 – ~7.8 million t per year, which is not insignificant relative to total imports (~20–21 million t).
Looks like Canada and Mexico supply a third of all imported cement.
Are you sure you're really in the field?
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:37 pm to southofyou
quote:Okay.
And most of those companies are foreign owned and cannot produce enough cement to meet the demand. As such, the costs will remain high for everything related to concrete.
So once again, how was your company "devastated" by tariffs?
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:39 pm to NC_Tigah
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So once again, how was your company "devastated" by tariffs?
Paying 15% tariffs on the 20% of imported supply doesn't exactly seem like a massive market shifter
Also seems like OPs company should import more from Canada and Mexicoi
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Effective tariff on Canadian or Mexican cement:
0% — if the cement meets USMCA rules of origin and documentation is claimed.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:40 pm to stout
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Looks like Canada and Mexico supply a third of all imported cement.
Are you sure you're really in the field?
That cement is across the border in both Canada and Mexico. While both Canada and Mexico export some cement via ocean shipping it is small. ]
The cement you get in Lake Charles is not produced domestically. It is likely from the Houston import terminals.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:40 pm to NC_Tigah
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So once again, how was your company "devastated" by tariffs?
They weren't.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:42 pm to southofyou
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That cement is across the border in both Canada and Mexico
So rail? Is your company not set up to import via rail?
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:42 pm to NC_Tigah
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Okay.
So once again, how was your company "devastated" by tariffs?
Because the needed cement cannot be imported at a profit, but the multinationals import anyway and they are fine because prices are thru the roof.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:42 pm to stout
quote:I guess my qualm is the obligate contention that tariffs are disproportionately killing his company
Paying 15% tariffs on the 20% of imported supply
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:44 pm to southofyou
If your cement business in the US is “decimated” by tariffs then your business is being run by fricking idiots.
Get the frick outta here
Get the frick outta here
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:44 pm to NC_Tigah
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I guess my qualm is the obligate contention that tariffs are disproportionately killing his company
They could be if he is importing more from Turkey than his competitors are but again that is a him problem. Not a market problem.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:45 pm to southofyou
Can you get me some Roman cement(aggregate)? That shite is good for Centuries. I am surprised yall haven't found a way to recycle cement/concrete.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:46 pm to stout
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So rail? Is your company not set up to import via rail?
Rail is for Canada an somewhat Mexico. It cannot make up the 20-25 million shortage.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:48 pm to stout
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hey could be if he is importing more from Turkey than his competitors are but again that is a him problem. Not a market problem.
Turkey is far and away the largest exporters and not many options.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:48 pm to southofyou
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It cannot make up the 20-25 million shortage.
According to the data, 6 million tons come from Turkey, which is roughly 6% of the entire US market, so how is 15% tariffs on 6% of the supply killing your company?
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:48 pm to southofyou
frick cement and frick you
Posted on 2/20/26 at 8:48 pm to stout
quote:His stipulation entails requisite product importation
They could be if he is importing more from Turkey
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