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Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:03 pm to StrongOffer
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Anyone who thinks the Holy Eucharist is merely a symbol is directly going against Jesus’ words.
That’s an interesting point.
Between the gospel accounts of the Last Supper, chapter six in John’s gospel and St. Paul’s take on it you’d think even the Bible only folks would reach the conclusion the Eucharist isn’t merely symbolic or metaphorical.
Much the same can be said of the Sacrament of Baptism.
And I count myself among those who place Holy Scripture as authoritative on these matters.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:27 pm to Richleau
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Sigh. Sure they did it for hundreds of years…did Protestants do that?
don't worry you guy's will always have the klan, when i was little living in hope, AR the church of christ would put pamphlets underneath the wind shield wipers on the cars in our parking lot depicting the pope drinking the blood of children and telling us we were going to he11.
my mother would dismiss it with "don't worry honey they're just white trash."
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:36 pm to dickkellog
Imagine thinking there wasn’t a member of the clan who was Catholic. Boomers man..
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:42 pm to Richleau
Imagine making up a church 400 years ago and then it dividing 38,000 times and calling that the church. Lol. Just saying it sounds off.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:53 pm to Richleau
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Imagine thinking there wasn’t a member of the clan who was Catholic. Boomers man..
First of all, it's Klan and second, you might want to pick up a book on occasion.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:55 pm to RescueT
Jesus’ teachings are quite universal. I choose to focus on that and not pomp and circumstance. Again, where in the Bible are any of the rituals practiced by the Catholic Church? It’s a simple question that none seem able to answer. Would you care to give it a shot?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:55 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
quote:Amazing to see how many people believe that the entirety of their "God's behavior" deals with their own understanding of the matters of men and their various opinions and edicts.
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Anyone who thinks the Holy Eucharist is merely a symbol is directly going against Jesus’ words.
That’s an interesting point.
Between the gospel accounts of the Last Supper, chapter six in John’s gospel and St. Paul’s take on it you’d think even the Bible only folks would reach the conclusion the Eucharist isn’t merely symbolic or metaphorical.
Much the same can be said of the Sacrament of Baptism.
And I count myself among those who place Holy Scripture as authoritative on these matters.
Too bad he has to follow their opinions and the matters of humans all the damn time. I mean, after all he is God and should be free of the millenia of human matters being opined and virtually no God tasks. About all he ever has any chance to get done - I mean, what with being God and all and everything and all like that
Well, I suppose it is time for y'all to get back to full time opinions of the full time matters of men
Jeesh, what a waste
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:02 pm to 62zip
So in your estimation no Catholic has been in the clan? You know that’s not the case. While rare, it did occur. And the clan was a small segment of misguided folks versus a top down hierarchy bent on power and mysticism. Again, the veil was destroyed after Jesus’ death. The Catholic Church for centuries harshly and currently continuely choose to create a divide between men and God.
It’s a perversion of Jesus’ teachings.
It’s a perversion of Jesus’ teachings.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:07 pm to Richleau
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Again, where in the Bible are any of the rituals practiced by the Catholic Church?
You do realize that Jesus commanded that worship to God be liturgical, don't you? Jesus worshipped liturgically when He was on earth and the heavenly worship is also liturgical.
Exodus, Isiah, and Revelation illustrate this. Hebrews explains how Christian worship is the fulfillment of OT Jewish liturgical worship.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:07 pm to Richleau
I would suggest you read the early church fathers and history of the church. You do realize for the first years of the church there was no Bible and it was handed down tradition. Literally John 6, Jesus says it is the blood and flesh of Himself. Without it in that way you have no life in you. I mean you folks are sola scriptura and can’t even read it without changing it to symbolism.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:14 pm to Knartfocker
Yes, communion is one. What else did he command? You seem to not be able to grasp the point of his sacrifice and effect it had. Why is that?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:19 pm to Richleau
Confession of sins. Do you confess your sins?
Baptism, is it needed for eternal salvation?
Worship, is it a concert or was it done liturgical?
I think the hang up for Protestants is this. Salvation. Y’all never get past initial salvation. There’s no substance. It’s continual milk. So concerts and feel good talks is what drives the church. There is no true worship. Eucharist is put in plastic and no reverence given. No reverence for any of the true sacraments. Just coffee bars, snacks, smoke shows and Ted talks.
Baptism, is it needed for eternal salvation?
Worship, is it a concert or was it done liturgical?
I think the hang up for Protestants is this. Salvation. Y’all never get past initial salvation. There’s no substance. It’s continual milk. So concerts and feel good talks is what drives the church. There is no true worship. Eucharist is put in plastic and no reverence given. No reverence for any of the true sacraments. Just coffee bars, snacks, smoke shows and Ted talks.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:22 pm to RescueT
lots of mens matters and actions; little God
as though...
as though...
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:24 pm to FriendofBaruch
So just a “personal” relationship with Christ and life never changes for you guys. Got it
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:27 pm to RescueT
Do you confess your sins to man or God? What did Jesus command? Again, there’s a reason the veil was torn upon Jesus’ death. There is no longer a separation, a barrier from the Holy of Holies. That is emblematic of His sacrifice. One must still live with God as the authority in their life, but it no longer needs to be a man made authority. No one comes to the Father but through Him. So why the Pope? Why confession of sins to priests? Why Hailmarys? You do realize these are akin to the same rituals and sacrifice activity led by the Levities, Samaritans, and Pharisees. They are the same dogmatic pomp that Jesus’ perfect sacrifice saved us from. While you look at Protestants as being lesser, this was the same disdain the Pharisees looked at Jesus for not following the laws of Moses. Same energy. It was wrong then and it is wrong now.
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:29 pm to Richleau
God. In front of my priest. So both. I’m held accountable. So if I do something and have to say it out loud it’s disgusting to hear. Let me guess…….you just pray about it, no one knows, no accountability.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:36 pm to RescueT
What you are saying is you fear man more than you fear God. Confession only works for you because you must utter it to men as opposed to God? Then God is not the leading authority in your life if one must face shame from man to feel guilt for their actions. God is always watching.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:38 pm to Richleau
lol. I am absolutely sick when I fail God. Because He’s all loving and good. Saying out loud is a grave reminder of that sickness we have. You hiding it away and keeping it hidden is your fear of men knowing you fail and the things you do in the dark. The Bible clearly states to confess sins. My friend, I say this with all due respect, you are lost in the wilderness and your hate for Catholics is astounding.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:46 pm to RescueT
I don’t hate Catholics. I just think they whiffed on the message which makes sense as humans naturally flock to power. It’s the reason Biblical Israel failed. And I do confess my sins to the authority in my life and that’s Jesus. Read John 1:9. Psalm 32:5. Matthew 18:15. The Bible is clear. What you are practicing is the old way found in Leviticus. Read Leviticus 5:5-6. Isaiah is clear. You are misinterpreting John 20:22-23.
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