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re: Couple of questions for the pro-Russian/pro-Putin posters?
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:39 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:39 am to NC_Tigah
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Is Putin not fighting the NWO?
Is the NWO not fighting Putin?
I have no idea b/c you have to give a specific definition of "NWO" for this point (the definition is not set in these discussions)
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:39 am to Origins of Asymmetry
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Well it's tough to respond to a meme but rooting against the interests of America and its allies is not smart
And by default he would be rooting for Putin in this scenario. He's just too chicken shite to admit it.
Kinda like you were too chickenshit to deny that any criticism of the potato's agenda is "anti-American"
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:39 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:You're setting that up. Patriots would have to agree on everything with the establishment to avoid your association.
Putin fights the NWO/globalists
Patriots™ fight the NWO/globalists
You don't see how there will be overlapping ideology there? Don't see how it's possible, at the least?
Congrats you can now demonize them for any dissent
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 11:40 am
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:40 am to LNCHBOX
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Acknowledgement of the globalists and what they try to do does not mean you support Putin.
I said fighting the globalists, not acknowledging them
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:41 am to WeeWee
Friend or Foe? I honestly have no clue. On one hand I am not smitten with Putin's incursion and corresponding declarations of annexation. On the other hand, I have zero affinity for a political coup holding President - if he is supported and propped by the likes of Soros, BHO, HRC and JFB then he darn sure doesn't have my support.
What I do believe is no American soldier has any business in this dust up, let Europe and neighboring regions sort out this mess and we need to - more than ever - cease diddling in other's business
What I do believe is no American soldier has any business in this dust up, let Europe and neighboring regions sort out this mess and we need to - more than ever - cease diddling in other's business
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:41 am to Gaggle
quote:
Patriots would have to agree on everything with the establishment to avoid your association.
Nope. I'm being very specific.
I don't agree with everything within the establishment (not by a long shot) and I'm nowhere close to a Patriot™
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:42 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I said fighting the globalists, not acknowledging them
Odd semantics play there. Still don't see how that is "pro-Putin" outside of just trying to have the gotcha moment. Simple-minded nonsense.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:43 am to wfallstiger
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What I do believe is no American soldier has any business in this dust up, let Europe and neighboring regions sort out this mess and we need to - more than ever - cease diddling in other's business
I completely agree regarding boots on the ground but it would be naive to disregard the long list of bad outcomes that come into play if or when Russia shares a border with Poland.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:44 am to Gaggle
He is getting dangerously close the whole “anyone who doesn’t agree with me is a Nazi” meme.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:45 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Putin doesn't agree with everything within the establishment (not by a long shot).
I don't agree with everything within the establishment (not by a long shot)
You can see how that's Putin adjacent.
It's the classic enemy of my enemy
You're very smart aren't you?
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:46 am to Bwmdx
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He is getting dangerously close the whole “anyone who doesn’t agree with me is a Nazi” meme.
This is, ironically, Putin's position
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:46 am to LNCHBOX
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Still don't see how that is "pro-Putin" outside of just trying to have the gotcha moment.
I didn't even use the term "Pro-Putin" there.
I said there would be probable ideological overlap between Putin and the Patriots™
People are trying to be so sly in excusing Putin (directly and indirectly) while claiming to not support him, because they understand that there is a HUGE ideological overlap in their personal political narrative and how that narrative has shaped their view on Putin himself.
That's why I've started being open about how I think the whole "NWO/Globalist" talking point is likely shite Putin made up and spread via propaganda specifically to create this Patriot™ population who will internally create division within the US. If my hypothesis is true, that single talking point (and the associated propaganda), along with the Russiagate propaganda, has done more damage to the world than the Ukrainian invasion (by splintering domestic American politics so severely).
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:47 am to Bwmdx
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He is getting dangerously close the whole “anyone who doesn’t agree with me is a Nazi” meme.
Not at all.
I'm saying if you're promoting legitimate white nationalist talking points, you're likely going to have overlap with legit neo-Nazi ideology, if you want to go down the "Nazi" road (even though that has nothing to do with this discussion)
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:48 am to Gaggle
quote:
Putin doesn't agree with everything within the establishment (not by a long shot).
You can see how that's Putin adjacent.
Nice try, but way too broad.
I am being very specific with the "NWO/globalist" beliefs
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Only your specific association to us is valid. The exact same logic applied to you is invalid due to lack of specificity. Those are the rules.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:52 am to SlowFlowPro
NWO/Globalist is inherently more specific than "our establishment". Obviously.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:There is a thread like this daily. It always has the same theme and no one from the fringe supporting this theme ever factually speak about it. Here is one <----This thread settled the subject.
You're going to get a threat of people saying nobody supports Putin, even though they love to add "but..." or talk about how he's fighting the NWO...but they're totally not supporting him.
And another one from today. There was another one today but when I was going to read it it was nuked. It is bizarre, they are passive aggressive about it and when they are called out, they spam the board & the Meme thread some more.
When they are called out, questioned or challenged they spazz & say, "like moths to a flame' And accuse those calling them out of being obsessed.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
Come on buddy. You got an IQ of 147 and the answers to the world exist inside that brilliant mind. You tried to set something up and I showed you how stupid it was. You better rationalize your way out.
I could do it. I could rationalize literally anything on earth. And so can they, like me they figured that out long ago. There's a good case that we actually just rationalize everything after the fact and free will doesn't exist. Your rationalization doesn't mean shite. You better start looking for the truth.
I could do it. I could rationalize literally anything on earth. And so can they, like me they figured that out long ago. There's a good case that we actually just rationalize everything after the fact and free will doesn't exist. Your rationalization doesn't mean shite. You better start looking for the truth.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:01 pm to WeeWee
How do you explain your unwavering belief in MSM despite all the evidence of how they lie and manipulate you?
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:05 pm to ThatTahoeOverThere
The most several pages of the meme thread are an absolute cesspool but oh no, no one on here is supporting Putin
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