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re: DOW only up about 15 points presently
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:17 pm to IrishTiger89
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:17 pm to IrishTiger89
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Long term growth projections are not very good driven by labor shortages, shifting demographics (boomers retiring), and huge government deficits (gov is going to have to significantly cut spending/benefits or raise taxes in the next 4 years).
Even bigger than that is the natural business cycle. We might have a few years left before a recession but it's inevitable. Government finances are fricked when that happens. Unfortunately, tax and spending bills are geared towards election cycles, not long-term prosperity.
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Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:21 pm to Kingpenm3
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You think the big players don't already know the numbers and have this stuff priced in.
A couple of examples to fortify your argument would be good. Thanks.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:23 pm to Homesick Tiger
An example is that the stock market is down in 2018 while corporate earnings are at record highs
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:26 pm to Homesick Tiger
If investors collectively think Q2 growth is going to be 4% and it turns out to be 4%, the market probably won’t react much. Investors had already factored in that level of growth. However, if Q2 growth was significantly over or under the anticipated amount, then the market would probably react today.
Other recent earnings reports and news are driving stocks downward.
Other recent earnings reports and news are driving stocks downward.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:46 pm to IrishTiger89
quote:Wrong. All three major U.S. stock indices are up since 1/1/18.
An example is that the stock market is down in 2018
DJIA
1/1/18 = 24,719.22
7/27/18 (12:41 PM CDT) = 25,418.68
+2.8%
S&P 500 Index
1/1/18 = 2,673.61
7/27/18 (12:41 PM CDT) = 2,814.71
+5.3%
NASDAQ Composite
1/1/18 = 6,903.39
7/27/18 (12:41 PM CDT) = 7,725.11
+11.9%
Maybe you should check the facts before you post something that is so easily fact-checked.
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:52 pm to JackieTreehorn
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JackieTreehorn
How's the smut business Jackie?
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:01 pm to LSURussian
You’re right. I totally meant to say since Jan peaks
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:02 pm to IrishTiger89
quote:No, you didn't. Just admit it and move on.....
I totally meant to say since Jan peaks
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:08 pm to LSURussian
No I totally meant to and I’m not making that up. I admitted my mistake.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:09 pm to Homesick Tiger
Info gets baked in based on expectations before it is dropped
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:09 pm to Homesick Tiger
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A couple of examples to fortify your argument would be good. Thanks.
His example was wrong but his point is correct. Generally speaking, a great number that was forecast to be great isn't going to have a broad impact on the market in a given day, especially a trailing number like GDP.
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