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re: Elon Musk says WFH is morally wrong
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:44 pm to oklahogjr
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:44 pm to oklahogjr
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Yes I was. It's pretty normal to slip out and go to the gym mid day. Or if I needed to go shop for something real quick I would, this was more limited by lack of refrigeration.
Majority of employers do not pay for employees to go to the gym or shopping
No wonder you support WFH, you are one of the fraudsters and lowlifes. 
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:45 pm to John Barron
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Incorrect, if you are on the clock running groceries and to the gym. I don't care if it's private or federal, it has to be eliminated
Respectfully disagree
If you are a salaried employee and do your job it can be done at home or in office.
Also, I think he is referring to government jobs and I 100% agree with that
I do a fair amount of work from him but also in the office virtually every day. My productivity is my employer problem based on pay
Elon has zero say in that
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:46 pm to John Barron
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Majority of employers do not pay for employees to go to the gym or shopping
They pay them to do their job. If they are, going to the gym midday is literally irrelevant.
You're only describing issues with an hourly model. Yes, if you get paid for an hour of work and you're not "working", you're doing something wrong.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:46 pm to dafif
Everyone getting trolled by this Barron poster. He/She been trolling for two months now. When you folks gonna learn?
Probably came over from DU.
Probably came over from DU.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:47 pm to dafif
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Also, I think he is referring to government jobs
No he wasn't. He was talking about the private sector also. Elon hates WFH
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:50 pm to LegendInMyMind
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We're all electric now. No place for hybrids here.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:51 pm to John Barron
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Majority of employers do not pay for employees to go to the gym or shopping No wonder you support WFH, you are one of the fraudsters and lowlifes.
If I was hourly it would probably be a problem. We don't let our low level help desk guys as an example go out and do whatever. They're hourly and need supervision of those hours to ensure we get the hour we're paying for.
No one is paying me hourly, I get paid based on my responsibilities being taken care of. As a trade off for the freedom during the day I also sometimes have to work longer days that don't pay me extra(well outside of bonus structure but that's wholely different).
It's clear you don't have much experience outside a hospital to know what the rest of the working world is like....
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:55 pm to oklahogjr
The only places that had these relaxed working environments were Apple, Google, Twitter, etc. You saw what Elon did with Twitter? He is about to do the same for the rest of America 
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:56 pm to oklahogjr
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As a trade off for the freedom during the day I also sometimes have to work longer days that don't pay me extra
And sometimes you have to answer emails/calls outside of work hours, etc.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:57 pm to Mick Hogger
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My WFH trade off is that I don't turn off my laptop end of day and I'm available to call almost anytime if anyone needs my assistance. Plus I'm in an oncall rotation and might be up a time or 2 during the night.
If I go in you can forget me being available after hours. I'm not going home and turning it back on.
Same here. I'm more efficient as a WFH employee because I'm willing to bring my laptop with me on vacation and answer an email any time of the day, including the weekend. 99.9% of my job can be completed so long as I have my laptop or phone and Internet access.
If I was in the office, you can forget about anything happening after hours.
I'm salaried fwiw.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:59 pm to John Barron
The logic is just dumb. Morally wrong because some people can’t work from home? Should we set every office on fire because firefighters are at risk?
If you works on a computer and have a job with a track able metric to determine if you’re doing it or not, why do you need to work in an office?
Donald Trump does his work on the golf course.
the DOGE guy and tech innovator thinks it’s better to own an office and make people show up than have the flexibility to hire anyone anywhere.
If you works on a computer and have a job with a track able metric to determine if you’re doing it or not, why do you need to work in an office?
Donald Trump does his work on the golf course.
the DOGE guy and tech innovator thinks it’s better to own an office and make people show up than have the flexibility to hire anyone anywhere.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:59 pm to oklahogjr
Should have known oklahog was WFH 
fits the stereotype to a T.
fits the stereotype to a T.Posted on 11/18/24 at 4:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And sometimes you have to answer emails/calls outside of work hours, etc.
Pretty much. If systems go down at night I'm getting woken up and so is my team. But if everyone leaves at 2pm Friday cause we're all caught up it doesn't matter one bit.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 4:02 pm to SammyTiger
quote:well sure. It's very common for higher level employees especially to come and go as they please.
Donald Trump does his work on the golf course.
You're out of your mind if you think Elon musk is sitting at a desk all day long "working". He absolutely goes and does whatever he feels like he needs to do when he needs to do it.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 4:03 pm to GrizzlyAlloy
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Should have known oklahog was WFH fits the stereotype to a T.
Yeah I made this career decision a long time ago. Going to the office everyday sucks and is a waste of money.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 4:03 pm to John Barron
Retarded take by Musk. No one bats a thousand.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 11/18/24 at 4:03 pm to oklahogjr
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You're out of your mind if you think Elon musk is sitting at a desk all day long "working".
He was on the campaign with Trump
Posted on 11/18/24 at 4:04 pm to John Barron
quote:What do you imagine "on the clock" even means for a salaried professional?
if you are on the clock running groceries and to the gym
Posted on 11/18/24 at 4:06 pm to John Barron
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Incorrect, if you are on the clock running groceries and to the gym. I don't care if it's private or federal, it has to be eliminated
then eliminate it at your company.
thats your prerogative
Posted on 11/18/24 at 4:07 pm to John Barron
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He is about to do the same for the rest of America
He needs to stay the frick out of private businesses' concerns.
Period.
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