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re: EVERYONE will pay higher taxes
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:25 pm to LSUconvert
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:25 pm to LSUconvert
quote:Do they not live in our society? Why should anyone not bear the burden for a government that ostensibly treats everyone equally?
Why would you want poor people to pay taxes?
quote:Yes. Mooching is not a virtue.
Is that good for the society?
quote:You might want to learn what that is in prison slang.
Or good for your own fee fees?
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:26 pm to Quintus
quote:
Reverse Citizens United.
Lobbying happend LOOOOONGGGG before Citizens United. So... still waiting on an answer.Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:28 pm to Taxing Authority
Corruption has increased exponentially since then.
I don’t claim it will solve the problem, but it is a big step in the right direction that would have immediate impact.
I can tell by the way you talk about it, you don’t understand it.
I don’t claim it will solve the problem, but it is a big step in the right direction that would have immediate impact.
I can tell by the way you talk about it, you don’t understand it.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:33 pm to LSUconvert
quote:Are you under the impression that most companies have enough margin to simply absorb tax increases?
Are you under the impression that consumers will buy napkins at any price? Allowing endless amounts of taxes to be shifted onto consumers?
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:33 pm to Strannix
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:36 pm to Quintus
quote:No it hasn't. It's always been there.
Corruption has increased exponentially since then.
quote:Well there's an arugment of merit.
I don’t claim it will solve the problem
quote:How so? What would it specifically prevent? How will you go amend the Constitution to accomplish it?
it is a big step in the right direction that would have immediate impact.
quote:Back at ya'. Had the SCOTUS found differently, corporations would have become un-sueable in court. They would have become extra-constitutional entities. But hey... if that's what you want... go for it.
I can tell by the way you talk about it, you don’t understand it.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:37 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
Are you under the impression that most companies have enough margin to simply absorb tax increases?
This is a fair point for small businesses, but there are many corps large and small that wouldn’t exist without federal subsidized programs, and they should be taxed accordingly.
Amazon comes to mind. Why is my tax dollar subsidizing the US postal service so Amazon can exist and not pay income tax?
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:40 pm to Eurocat
quote:not sure if you are trolling or not. It’s not even debatable. Every time (R or D) spends and prints, the spending power of your dollars go down. It’s just government scrip.
Inflation is not a tax.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:42 pm to Quintus
quote:Show us some example balance sheets demonstrating these.
but there are many corps large and small that wouldn’t exist without federal subsidized programs, and they should be taxed accordingly
quote:So we should craft tax law for every corporation based on one corporation we don't like? K. You seem sensible.
Amazon comes to mind.
quote:One of the tiredest talking points ever. Exept for employee retirement... USPS receives almost no federal funding. LINK And USPS runs a profit on AMZN shipments. So...
Why is my tax dollar subsidizing the US postal service so Amazon can exist and not pay income tax?
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:43 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
Back at ya'. Had the SCOTUS found differently, corporations would have become un-sueable in court
This is unrelated non-sense. It is a first amendment issue.
I do not wish to have this discussion with you.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:46 pm to Quintus
quote:
This is unrelated non-sense.
quote:INDEED! So if a corporation has not rights, and no ability be treated as "a person" for the purpose of torts and under law... guess what happens?
It is a first amendment issue.
And you still provided no specifics on how it would change anything....
quote:Wise move.
I do not wish to have this discussion with you.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:50 pm to Taxing Authority
Amazon’s effective tax rate in 2020 was 12.5%. Mine was twice that.
Yes. I think there should be laws against that.
Yes. I think there should be laws against that.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:51 pm to Quintus
quote:That's an in depth analysis
Amazon’s effective tax rate in 2020 was 12.5%. Mine was twice that.
How much was profit did they earn? How much was their depreciation expenses? How much carried forward losses did they have? CAPEX? Do you know anything? quote:That's an OUTSTANDING basis for making law, and taking other people's stuff.
Yes. I think there should be laws against that.
New law: No corporation "Quintus" doesn't like shall pay a lower tax than he does.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:52 pm to LSUconvert
quote:
Why would you want poor people to pay taxes? Is that good for the society? Or good for your own fee fees?
There are virtually zero poor people in America. Our fricking homeless are better off than at least 4 billion people on the planet.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:53 pm to Quintus
quote:
Corruption has increased exponentially since then.
quote:You don't even really know what the problem is.
I don’t claim it will solve the problem
quote:
I can tell by the way you talk about it, you don’t understand it.
:rotflmao:Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:55 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:The funny part is, this kind of thinking is what created the absurdities of the past with hilariously high top bracket rates that basically, no one really paid because the congress was handing out this that or the other special treatment.
So we should craft tax law for every corporation based on one corporation we don't like? K. You seem sensible.
We spent decades pretty much eliminating REAL loopholes and today's democrats STILL talk like it's 1970.
quote:But but but........Democrat Underground said!!!!
One of the tiredest talking points ever. Exept for employee retirement... USPS receives almost no federal funding. LINK / And USPS runs a profit on AMZN shipments. So...
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:56 pm to Quintus
quote:
Amazon’s effective tax rate in 2020 was 12.5%. Mine was twice that.
My God. This is just pathetic. Revel in your ignorance
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:58 pm to SuperDad
quote:With 1970s deductions, and tax brackets adjusted for inflation, I'd HAPPILY take a 90% top marginal tax rate.
The funny part is, this kind of thinking is what created the absurdities of the past with hilariously high top bracket rates that basically, no one really paid because the congress was handing out this that or the other special treatment.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:59 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
INDEED! So if a corporation has not rights, and no ability be treated as "a person" for the purpose of torts and under law... guess what happens?
No. A corporation does not need to demonstrate personal liability to be required to follow the law.
The SCOTUS opinions on citizens United are public. None of them make this ridiculous claim.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:00 pm to Quintus
quote:Indeed. That wasn't the question. Tell us why you oppose that.
No. A corporation does not need to demonstrate personal liability to be required to follow the law.
Hell, I'd settle for any details of how you think it should be "fixed" or what it would specifically prohibit.
quote:
The SCOTUS opinions on citizens United are public. None of them make this ridiculous claim.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 9:01 pm
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