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re: Fact Checkers accidentally confirm that Cali bill SB-145 decriminalizes some pedophilia
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:07 pm to rattlebucket
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:07 pm to rattlebucket
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No they don't.
Yes they literally do. 14 year olds have been procreating since the beginning of time. If we’re talking about forcible rape, in which they aren’t actively participating, that’s a different topic.
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You are saying what you think are the legal responses
Well as it turns out that’s exactly what we’re discussing. And it’s important to get it right if we’re going to protect children from the current agenda being slowly worked into societal norms by the freaks.
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They are kids and brains that are not fully formed.
But much more fully formed & hormonal than a prepubescent child.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 10:09 pm
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:08 pm to Tuscaloosa
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We’re not talking semantics. It’s very much worth distinguishing the two.
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Tuscaloosa
F*cking figures.
You should just be glad they don't execute Bama fans for f*cking their sisters. Bryant-Denney would pretty much be empty every home game.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:09 pm to MMauler
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You should just be glad they don't execute Bama fans for f*cking their sisters. Bryant-Denney would pretty much be empty every home game.
Feel better?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:16 pm to Tuscaloosa
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I can re-write that to read “non-forcible” or “unforced” if we’re getting hung up on that. Words do mean things.
If you truly believe that a 14 year old girl is capable of processing the situation when being manipulated by a 24 year old simply because her hormones have developed her body, you are freaking nuts. There is no non-forcible or unforced in that situation ever. You chastised a poster that words matter yet call that situation consensual—now non-forcible or unforced.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:19 pm to fisherscatfan
In ancient times females were having sex at that age. Society changes over time.
There is definitely a difference between a 24 year old with a 14 year old as opposed to a 6 year old. Enough so that there are literally different words to describe the situations.
There is definitely a difference between a 24 year old with a 14 year old as opposed to a 6 year old. Enough so that there are literally different words to describe the situations.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:22 pm to fisherscatfan
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If you truly believe that a 14 year old girl is capable of processing the situation when being manipulated by a 24 year old simply because her hormones have developed her body, you are freaking nuts. There is no non-forcible or unforced in that situation ever. You chastised a poster that words matter yet call that situation consensual—now non-forcible or unforced.
Yes, that’s one primary difference between 1st degree rape and 2nd degree rape in most states. But you are attempting to create an argument where there is none. A 24 year old sleeping with a 14 year old is wrong. Nobody has defended that in any way.
My only stance in any of this has been that a 50 year old molesting a 5 year old is exponentially worse, and it’s incredibly dangerous for any law to lump them together as one. They are not the same.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:24 pm to Powerman
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There is definitely a difference between a 24 year old with a 14 year old as opposed to a 6 year old. Enough so that there are literally different words to describe the situations.
Damn. The poster took exception to calling it pedophilia as words matter then wrote “consensual” sex between an adult and a teenager when referring to the situation presented of a 24 year old and a 14 year old. No way that is ever consensual. If it is so damn important to call out someone using the term pedophilia when everyone in casual conversation knows what was meant then don’t be so damn sloppy to say consensual is the freaking point.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:26 pm to fisherscatfan
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Damn. The poster took exception to calling it pedophilia as words matter then wrote “consensual” sex between an adult and a teenager when referring to the situation presented of a 24 year old and a 14 year old. No way that is ever consensual. If it is so damn important to call out someone using the term pedophilia when everyone in casual conversation knows what was meant then don’t be so damn sloppy to say consensual is the freaking point.
The freaking point is that a 40, 50, or 60 year old molesting a 4 year old is not the same as a 24 year old having sex with a 14 year old. And a lot of you took exception to that.
Based on this thread, you’d think this was some underground LGBQTLMNOPQRXTUV forum.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:31 pm to Flats
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Aren't you a libertarian? No pushing morals on people?
Most libertarians make an obvious exception to kids.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:31 pm to Tuscaloosa
No you called it consensual. I never equated the 2 but you attempted to legitimize one.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:32 pm to fisherscatfan
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No you called it consensual. I never equated the 2 but you attempted to legitimize one.
You win. You really got me. Nice work.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:34 pm to Tuscaloosa
I didn’t attempt to legitimize one. In fact I wrote both are morally reprehensible. You did the work yourself.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:37 pm to fisherscatfan
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I didn’t attempt to legitimize one. In fact I wrote both are morally reprehensible. You did the work yourself.
No, you got hung up on what “consensual” means, and were absolutely wrong in assuming that an individual is incapable of verbally & physically consenting without being able to legally consent due to age.
But you’d rather drag your knuckles and drool while you equate a 50 year old molesting a 4 year old with a 24 and 14 year old having unforced sex.
Weird, but whatever.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:40 pm to Roaad
I'm surprised to see so many posters here that think sex with an 8 year old is not worse than having a sex with a 14 year old. Sick fricks.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:43 pm to Tuscaloosa
Didnt take you for a groomer supporter
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:44 pm to Tuscaloosa
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No, you got hung up on what “consensual” means, and were absolutely wrong in assuming that an individual is incapable of verbally & physically consenting without being able to legally consent due to age.
This is comical at this point. Your whole pretext was words matter and now it is simply getting “hung up on what consensual means”.
Your petty insults are ridiculous. You called out an individual for being sloppy with words then went on to be sloppy with yours.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:44 pm to SDVTiger
And like clockwork you have nothing to add as usual
How is it being so worthless?
How is it being so worthless?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:45 pm to SDVTiger
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Didnt take you for a groomer supporter
You people are the groomers. In no morally structured universe would it ever be acceptable to equate a 24 year old having sex with a 14 year old to a 50 year old molesting a 4 year old. But that’s what you’re trying to do.
I’ll stay over here. You guys can keep pretending they’re the same.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:46 pm to fisherscatfan
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Your whole pretext was words matter and now it is simply getting “hung up on what consensual means”.
Yes. You were wrong about what consensual means, so I offered to change the word so you could move on and have a discussion, but that wasn’t good enough. So then I had to explain to you the difference between consensual and legal consent because you went full blown autism about it. Wasn’t on my to-do list tonight, but I’m glad I could help.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:51 pm to Tuscaloosa
Keep digging. A 14 year old does not have the cognitive ability to understand the manipulation of a 24 year old. You are pathetic.
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