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re: Florida passed law requiring “In God We Trust” signage in all schools
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:14 pm to conservativewifeymom
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:14 pm to conservativewifeymom
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You do NOTHING but waste time and space.
At least I don't force my views on others. You celebrate that fact.
Good thing this country let you move here so you could tell others how to live.
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:16 pm to asurob1
quote:Info please
Good thing this country let you move here so you could tell others how to live.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:20 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Yes, but it's also a word in English. It means the islamic god.
Well that certainly seems like endorsement of a specific religion, then. You prove a point you aren’t trying to.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:20 pm to Yak
I'm mixed on this. The motto provides some cover, although if I were a Florida resident I'd probably question whether this provides any benefit to the schools of the state.
In general I prefer to focus my energy on protecting religious aspects of public life that have acquired non-religious significance than on creating new intersections of government and religion that seem, in part, to be just new fronts in the culture war.
In general I prefer to focus my energy on protecting religious aspects of public life that have acquired non-religious significance than on creating new intersections of government and religion that seem, in part, to be just new fronts in the culture war.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:32 pm to AggieHank86
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Jehovah knew that Judaism would not sell in the Roman world, so he created Christianity to spread His Word outside Palestine. But he was not able to tailor the message for Arabs?
Can I ask what your background is with the Christian religion?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:38 pm to FooManChoo
57 years of Divinity School. See how easy it is to fabricate stuff?
Seriously, many hundreds of hours reading about comparative religion, with Christianity comprising perhaps half of that.
I find the topic fascinating, and I look at it from the perspective of a researcher rather than an adherent. I have taken several tests on Biblical knowledge, and I normally score in the top percentiles. I also find the evolution of the Christian Church to be fascinating ... and much more complex than most Christians understand. I feel I have a firm grasp on the subject.
BTW, my post about God tailoring his story to different demographics was sarcasm, if you missed that part. God may well exist. All religions are man-made.
Seriously, many hundreds of hours reading about comparative religion, with Christianity comprising perhaps half of that.
I find the topic fascinating, and I look at it from the perspective of a researcher rather than an adherent. I have taken several tests on Biblical knowledge, and I normally score in the top percentiles. I also find the evolution of the Christian Church to be fascinating ... and much more complex than most Christians understand. I feel I have a firm grasp on the subject.
BTW, my post about God tailoring his story to different demographics was sarcasm, if you missed that part. God may well exist. All religions are man-made.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:08 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Thank you for clarifying. I thought you were serious as many here (even many professing Christians) don't seem to know what they are talking about when it comes to history and doctrine of particular religions.
BTW, my post about God tailoring his story to different demographics was sarcasm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:09 pm to conservativewifeymom
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ACLU
They're going to poop their pants over this, but are eerily silent about FISA warrants obtained with fabricated information.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:22 pm to Parmen
Jesus Christ. Leave it to Florida to pass a law Requiring some wizard in the sky's name to be on all of the schools.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:24 pm to RogerThis
quote:It's the official United States motto, but I'm sure you knew that.
Leave it to Florida to pass a law Requiring some wizard in the sky's name to be on all of the schools.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:26 pm to FooManChoo
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It's the official United States motto, but I'm sure you knew that.
Of course I know that. But that does not make it any less of a Stupid goddamned motto
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:32 pm to RogerThis
quote:Your comment seemed to convey that it was some arbitrary religious saying that had no context outside of a church building.
Of course I know that.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:39 pm to Parmen
Worshipping the mythical Father Creator in schools.
Dumbassery.
Dumbassery.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:43 pm to FooManChoo
quote:Note that this did not become the national motto until the 1950s, in response to the Soviet threat.
Your comment seemed to convey that (“In God We Trust”) was some arbitrary religious saying that had no context outside of a church building.
For almost 200 years before that time, the motto was “E Pluriibus Unum,” which seems more fitting to me.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:48 pm to AggieHank86
quote:That's fine. We can debate whether we should change the motto. I'm just saying that it's currently the national motto and not some random religious graffiti that Florida wants to spray on educational buildings down there.
Note that this did not become the national motto until the 1950s, in response to the Soviet threat.
For almost 200 years before that time, the motto was “E Pluriibus Unum,” which seems more fitting to me.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:01 pm to AggieHank86
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Note that this did not become the national motto until the 1950s, in response to the Soviet threat.
For almost 200 years before that time, the motto was “E Pluriibus Unum,” which seems more fitting to me.
That's one thing that always irks me in these debates. People want to act like "under God" and "In God We Trust" were laid down by the Founding Fathers. It dates from the height of the Cold War and in that light it seems more like propaganda.
The Pledge of Allegiance that we know today (except the "under God" part) was written by a socialist. It was originally supposed to have a line about "equality" but he struck it out because women and black people weren't equal under the law.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:08 pm to FooManChoo
quote:Fair enough.
I'm just saying that it's currently the national motto and not some random religious graffiti that Florida wants to spray on educational buildings down there.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:23 pm to RogerThis
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Jesus Christ. Leave it to Florida to pass a law Requiring some wizard in the sky's name to be on all of the schools.
I bet you really thought you were edgy and clever when you typed this.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:23 pm to asurob1
It’s funny that you mention slavery as though it’s negative connotations are solely associated with the United States. Before I go any further, I have to ask, are you aware of any other history outside of the United States? Because for you to contribute slavery as being a problem of the United States shows your ignorance. There isn’t a country on earth where slavery hasn’t been implemented at one point in time. Not to mention that many of the countries that trump designed as being shitholes still use slavery today. I guess you’re purposely ignorant?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:25 pm to jnethe1
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asurob1
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I guess you’re purposely ignorant?
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