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re: France just recalled its US ambassador
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:53 pm to teke184
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:53 pm to teke184
It’s the way it was done.
France isn’t going to be angry with us if Canada chooses our F35 over their Rafale jet fighter.
But France has been working exclusively with Australia on a $60B submarine deal for years that was in its final stage. And we secretly entered into side negotiations with Australia at the last minute and offered them nukes.
It’s the way it was done.
France isn’t going to be angry with us if Canada chooses our F35 over their Rafale jet fighter.
But France has been working exclusively with Australia on a $60B submarine deal for years that was in its final stage. And we secretly entered into side negotiations with Australia at the last minute and offered them nukes.
It’s the way it was done.
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Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:53 pm to LuckyTiger
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French Foreign Minister: “This is not how one treats allies. If this is an ally, perhaps we should have new allies.”
if you’re feeling froggy then jump
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:53 pm to LuckyTiger
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French Foreign Minister: “This is not how one treats allies. If this is an ally, perhaps we should have new allies.”
From a French perspective he's not wrong. France should put France first just like America should put America first.
This sub deal came completely out of left field and, interestingly enough, right after France killed a major ISIS leader and the US murdered a bunch of civilians in Afghanistan that Biden swore was ISIS.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:54 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:
It’s the way it was done.
France isn’t going to be angry with us if Canada chooses our F35 over their Rafale jet fighter.
But France has been working exclusively with Australia on a $60B submarine deal for years that was in its final stage. And we secretly entered into side negotiations with Australia at the last minute and offered them nukes.
It’s the way it was done.
We have a better product and a national interest in countering China closer to their land than ours.
Either offer Australia a better deal than we can or shut the frick up, France.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:55 pm to LuckyTiger
Get James Taylor on the phone! Immediately!
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:55 pm to boosiebadazz
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Australia is much closer to China than France is. I’d rather have bases in Australia in exchange for the nuclear tech. Get bent, Macron homo
I don't disagree. However, I was told we had to elect Biden because OMB had alienated all of our allies and only Biden could restore our international prestige. Well, how's that working out?
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:55 pm to Crimson1st
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Australia cancelled a contract to buy subs from the French in favor of a deal to buy nuclear subs from us.
That contract was for 66 Billion in Diesel Boats. Australia wants to join the Nuclear silent stealth Club. In other words , they want the capability to sneak up and blow holes in Chinese Air Craft Carriers.
This post was edited on 9/17/21 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:55 pm to boosiebadazz
You sound like Trump.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:56 pm to boosiebadazz
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Australia is much closer to China than France is. I’d rather have bases in Australia in exchange for the nuclear tech. Get bent, Macron homo
You'd think with reasonably competent diplomacy, we wouldn't be faced with this sort of Hobson's Choice between long time allies.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:56 pm to cokebottleag
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France can blow us. Biden is a fricktard but we need a tighter alliance with australia and the UK a lot more than the frogs.
The French just killed the ISIS leader in NW Africa responsible for the killings of our Green Berets in 2017
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:56 pm to cokebottleag
The French are vastly more capable than the British and the Australians.
This is a massive economic blow for France. It was a gargantuan contract for the French.
This is a massive economic blow for France. It was a gargantuan contract for the French.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:56 pm to Heyes
True , but it was them that had our backs and could argue the nail in coffin in Revolutionary War . They have been paid back twice though
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:57 pm to Heyes
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Frick France , we have bailed those frickers out in two world wars. .
No we didn't. The country formally known as the United States did.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:58 pm to LuckyTiger
It’s certainly very transactional.
I just like this particular transaction in light of an ascendant China.
France is an ally, but they’re not traditionally as close as Australia has been. They’ve diverged from us over the years with deGaulle and Iraq. We paid them back for Lafayette with WW2 so it’s very much a what have you done for me lately situation.
I just like this particular transaction in light of an ascendant China.
France is an ally, but they’re not traditionally as close as Australia has been. They’ve diverged from us over the years with deGaulle and Iraq. We paid them back for Lafayette with WW2 so it’s very much a what have you done for me lately situation.
This post was edited on 9/17/21 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:00 pm to Heyes
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frick France , we have bailed those frickers out in two world wars
Now is not the time to weaken relationships with Western Allies
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:00 pm to cokebottleag
quote:but?
Biden is a fricktard but we need a tighter alliance with ... the UK
PotatoBrain dropped our UK alliance into the toilet bowl last month.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:01 pm to boosiebadazz
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. I’d rather have bases in Australia in exchange for the nuclear tech.
Is having US bases in Australia part of the deal?
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:01 pm to NC_Tigah
and he can't even remember the name of "our pal from down under"
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:02 pm to cokebottleag
Austrailia is too cucked to form any sort of alliance with.
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