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Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:27 pm to SDVTiger
If sgallo shares where his business is in Lake Chuck, I’ll gladly patronize it to show support during this trade war.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:27 pm to stout
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and currency manipulation,
The US Dollar had one of its worst performances ever in 2025. How does that square with the tariff policy? It’s not like the Fed eased much during that time frame (only 75 bps).
Plus our trade deficit only narrowed slightly and the US equities market underperformed global markets the most since 1994.
If this policy was working as well as they say, we would see more strength in the broader economy and outperform globally.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:27 pm to lsugolf1105
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i voted for trump 3 times
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:29 pm to stout
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Yes...if your business sells only in the U.S. then foreign tariffs don’t really hit you.
this is the opposite of what I was getting at.
they have an effect but that is why foreigners buy American. we provide a superior product at a premium cost.
Yeah an American company may get their parts/materials from somewhere else, but we use those parts to make a product better than anyone else in the world.
If someone wants to buy a cheap knockoff Chinese product that is their sacrifice.
I'd rather 1,000 American jobs making end level products than 2,000 mining jobs. We will never compete with cheap manual labor jobs vs countries with more access to certain minerals.
It's all really complicated and I guess with other countries having access to AI we can only count on being a superior end level service provider for so long. We already see it in the automobile industry with American cars no longer being superior.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:31 pm to SnacknGold06
Tariffs don’t automatically strengthen a currency, and markets care about growth. It takes time to correct decades of trade imbalances.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:31 pm to moontigr
why is it so hard to believe i voted for trump? i'm arguing for limited governemnt and free markets 
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:33 pm to stout
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It takes time to correct decades of trade imbalances.
it really is needed but I wonder if with growing robotics and AI if some of these battles are even worth fighting? they will certainly be moot points by the time the dust settles in some markets
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:34 pm to sgallo3
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How is allowing other nations to put tariffs on us a business model?
We're America. If i make a superior golf club and other countries put tariffs on their consumers they have to pay more if they wanna buy golf clubs that are created in America.
If i need a material/part to manufacture golf clubs that is created somewhere else i have to buy it. It isnt a choice to just not use aluminum or to create a whole plant to manufacture the part I need.
is it a good business model for foreign countries to tariff us? if so, why?
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:36 pm to lsugolf1105
and i'm pro-life and want conservatives on the bench. but sorry if i don't think amy barrett is a disgraceful person. and sorry if i don't want to pay the government more money instead of growing my business.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:36 pm to sgallo3
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but we use those parts to make a product better than anyone else in the world.
Only because countries choose to make the lower quality items as you pointed out with this statement:
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We already see it in the automobile industry with American cars no longer being superior.
Have you seen some of the Korean cars we can't get here? Options galore and great quality that would put any American car to shame.
Also, from my example, Komatsu runs circles around Cat when it comes to excavators and some classes of dozers
The world has caught up in many areas and is also using tariffs to further strengthen their products over our exports AKA trade imbalances.
Cubbies may look down on it, but manufacturing in America is still essential, and one of the many ways to preserve it is to end the trade imbalances and currency manipulation.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:39 pm to dstone12
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is it a good business model for foreign countries to tariff us? if so, why?
It isn't for their citizens, especially if their home grown version is inferior.
It's only worth it if they can create a home version that is as good as ours or provides such an economic boom that it outweighs their citizens being stuck using their shitty version.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:39 pm to stout
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Tariffs don’t automatically strengthen a currency, and markets care about growth. It takes time to correct decades of trade imbalances.
Fair enough. It is correct to assume your point of currency manipulation is aimed primarily at China? I’m classically liberal (dirty word around here) and agree with targeted tariffs against China in situations where their government subsidies costs to crush our steel industry, etc.
This latest global tariff doesn’t accomplish much though since it’s less scalpel and more sledgehammer. US consumers will pay higher prices and given its time limited, it won’t spur investment domestically.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:39 pm to sgallo3
A whole bunch of middle America will feel the crunch from this. Some will have to shift their spending. Hell, some may even lose their small business if they can't keep up with the big dawgs who can absorb some of the hit. I'll be fine though, so I appreciate their sacrifice to own the libs 
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:42 pm to SnacknGold06
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since it’s less scalpel and more sledgehammer
Which is why it would have been more beneficial to leave the IEEPA tariffs as they were. It allowed Trump maneuverability and discretion. Now he is relying on laws that must be used as a sledgehammer.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:42 pm to Taxing Authority
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Definitely being forced to overpay for COGS is a great indicator of running a business efficiently, amiright?
You have to make cuts in other areas to make up for that cost increase. Every business does this.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:45 pm to Odysseus32
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This is so goddamn good if you’re on the left. He has guaranteed the midterms are going blue.
The left economic policy is fraud and corruption. However bad tariffs are the left is miles worse in every other area
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:50 pm to Tigergreg
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You have to make cuts in other areas to make up for that cost increase. Every business does this.
yes, cutting other things and stifling your business sucks. especially when it is because of a government tariff. again, it is like paying a higher tax rate.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:52 pm to stout
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Which is why it would have been more beneficial to leave the IEEPA tariffs as they were
guess a good question to ask is do we want the president to have the power to implement tariffs on any and all countries with no limitations? we ready for that?
Posted on 2/21/26 at 1:04 pm to stout
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Also, from my example, Komatsu runs circles around Cat when it comes to excavators and some classes of dozers
Yeah, Cat is still top dog in the logging industry though. Pretty sure that more of that manufacturing is done in Canada though and then shipped to the US
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