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Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22367 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:22 pm to
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Hmmmmm..... nah, still don't care!!!
When I want soap opera drama, I'll just watch a soap opera!

Isn't the suggestion - backed up by quite a bit of info and conjecture from those we kinda sorta listen to (like Trump) - that Epstein was Mossad (or Mossad/CIA), and he ran a teenage honeypot scheme to compromise loads of powerful people, mostly American.

You wouldn't care about it if the suggestion were proven true?
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:25 pm to
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Is Don Jr an Epstein Bro?

I'm keeping track?




JD Vance is one too





Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48882 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:26 pm to
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lake chuck fan



why are you a fricking pedo defender?
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9478 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:27 pm to
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Isn't the suggestion - backed up by quite a bit of info and conjecture from those we kinda sorta listen to (like Trump) - that Epstein was Mossad (or Mossad/CIA), and he ran a teenage honeypot scheme to compromise loads of powerful people, mostly American.


Epstein was basically a conman, a pedophile. His girlfriend and confidant was the daughter of a billionaire who was a Mossad contact in the UK government. It’s likely that any blackmail operation was dropped in her lap, and he went along, because he’s a psychopath

This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86737 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:28 pm to
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They won’t stop


Dude your (in many ways, our) movement made itself about Epstein and this effort to reframe is just absolute insanity
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22367 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:29 pm to
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Epstein was basically a conman, a pedophile. His girlfriend and confidant was the daughter of a billionaire who was a Mossad contact in the UK government. It’s likely that any blackmail operation was dropped in her lap, and he went along, because he’s a psychopath

Not sure that changes anything.

And isn't there some question about where his money came from?
Posted by exdemocrat
Member since Aug 2020
183 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:33 pm to
Giuffre V. Maxwell Documents

Page 8 contains many unsealed documents. A lot of information including Virginia Giuffre's testimony.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46953 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:33 pm to
There are something like 200 victims that have either gone public, given statements to investigators, or have been represented in civil suits.

You’d think there’d be something more than Prince Andrew and JE in the public conversation by now- even without the files released. Hell, we all know the leaking issues at the FBI, so if there’s this epic list you of pedo world leaders, why don’t we already know?
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9478 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:33 pm to
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Not sure that changes anything. And isn't there some question about where his money came from?
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What it changes is it answers the question “hey, brah, whut the hail does Israel have to do with this”

His money came from making friends with Lex Wexner, the billionaire who owned a fashion empire, including The Limited, Victorias Secret, etc. once he established that relationship, Wexner agreed (inexplicably) to turn over the entirety of his wealth management and personal assets to Epstein. Epstein parlayed that into doing the same with other powerful people with assets.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
26551 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:35 pm to
Looks like you cracked the case!! You should take over Kash Patel’s job!
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
26551 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:37 pm to
This cracked the case!! This is it!! Great find!! It’s now officially over!!

Holy shite - wow!!!! Everybody is now going down for this!!!

Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12719 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:37 pm to
I’m not trying to reframe anything I think they should release everything. I’m pointing out that seldom and others non stop posting is only about pushing a narrative about Trump and not some righteous movement
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86737 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:38 pm to
I mean, you know of a prince, a billionaire hedge fund guy, Bill Clinton, a former Democratic governor who ran for President and long time US Senator

That's a pretty solid list already, no?

I've long been of the position that there probably isn't THAT much more out there in terms of bombshell revelations, but I'm one who already assumes Clinton was close enough to the fire that if not criminal, it should absolutely destroy his legacy. So in that sense, I still have questions about whether there is evidence or information to further connect those dots beyond what we already reasonably suspect.

In short, I think Trump is probably right in a sense that there isn't a grand list and there won't be 100 prosecutions, but I think he's going about it in a ridiculous way and I think there is 99.99% chance there is more information the public can/should get (even if it's not the world-altering stuff we've imagined for the last decade).
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22367 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:39 pm to
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You’d think there’d be something more than Prince Andrew and JE in the public conversation by now- even without the files released. Hell, we all know the leaking issues at the FBI, so if there’s this epic list you of pedo world leaders, why don’t we already know?

That's a good question. One of many. Other good questions -

Wouldn't it be odd for all these world leaders to persistently hang out with a guy that has oodles of teens around, I guess for his own pleasure, and nobody said or did anything about it?

If there's nothing in the files but proof there is no list and that there was never any involvement by the CIA or Mossad in the whole shite show, why would Trump refuse to make the files public?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86737 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:40 pm to
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I’m not trying to reframe anything I think they should release everything. I’m pointing out that seldom and others non stop posting is only about pushing a narrative about Trump and not some righteous movement


I don't think Seldom is trying to stick Trump in the middle of the sordid Epstein stuff

I do think Seldom is critical of Trump for other reasons and is critical of Trump's about-face on this issue, which is fair. I don't think he's trying to say Trump is an Epstein client.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
22231 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:43 pm to
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You wouldn't care about it if the suggestion were proven true?


IF these allegations were proven true, I would care. Until then, I don't care.

How any person can believe there's evidence still laying around is beyond silly. The criminals destroyed whatever evidence existed before Bondi or Patel were confirmed.

As far as any evidence against Trump, that's beyond ridiculous!!! As it would have been used against Trump long ago.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86737 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:44 pm to
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Wouldn't it be odd for all these world leaders to persistently hang out with a guy that has oodles of teens around, I guess for his own pleasure, and nobody said or did anything about it?



Dershowitz comes to mind on this. I think it's reasonable to conclude (especially after the settlement with Giuffre and her statement that she might have been mistaken) that he never had sex with her like she once claimed. But she's been insistent that Epstein always had girls around and had photos everywhere of topless, young looking girls. So I think it's possible you have guys who didn't partake but were still around enough to know exactly what was going on, especially repeat visitors.

Which I think is especially pertinent to Bill Clinton being at the island at least twice, allegedly.
Posted by BabyGumbo
Member since Sep 2020
100 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:46 pm to
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There are something like 200 victims that have either gone public, given statements to investigators, or have been represented in civil suits.


The victims were probably paid 10s if not 100s of millions of dollars and signed NDAs. If they break the NDAs they potentially lose a lot of money. This is why we are not hearing much from the victims.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7580 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:47 pm to
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Holy shite - wow!!!! Everybody is now going down for this!!!

Some of these docs are 600+ pages. And yes, I do think it’s interesting Trump was in one of the messages flagged and logged into evidence as “important”.

My opinion is if anyone was involved in any way, lock them up. Clinton, Trump, anyone implicated in abuse or any profiteering or coverup thereof.

You, on the other hand, are absolutely melting and spinning out over the idea some guy you never met might have been somehow involved.

frickin weird man.
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 2:48 pm
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7580 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:49 pm to
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Pecos Pedro

You’re having a really hard time with all this.

My condolences to you, lake chuck, FloTech and your pedo friends.

PedoPedro has some real sticking power.
Whoops.
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 3:26 pm
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