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David_DJS
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I do not defend Leo’s predecessor. He was a heretic and I couldn’t stand him during his entire tenure.
It was John Paul (and others before him) that spoke to the principle of universal destination of goods. Benedict probably did, too, but it's JP that I remember it about.
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I think there’s a perception issue here.
What do you think is being perceived wrong w/r/t Leo's positions/statements?
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I’m simply asking you to prove your claim. Maybe I don’t have the data that I need am wrong.
I engaged you in this thread because you came across like you're not ignorant. If you are truly unaware of these things, just go read about the pope as Monarch, illegal immigration laws/penalties and deportation for Vatican City, and then google Leo's comments on deportations, his bishops letter on mass deportations, and even go back to predecessor "teachings" on universal destination of goods. Remember my comment wasn't only about Leo, but the Vatican.
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I can’t prove a negative. Please elaborate.
I didn't ask you to prove anything.
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OK. Could you please provide examples with quotes so you guys can’t continue to be misleading?
I don't know who "you guys" are. I've made my argument that the Vatican is hypocritical on illegal immigration/deportation. I think that's pretty much self-evident, if you have any awareness of what you're posting about.
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Nope. Well aware of that one. What some of you are claiming is very different.
The claim here is the Vatican is hypocritical on illegal immigration/deportation.
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Please provide proof/quotes
You need someone to post Leo quotes criticizing the treatment of illegals in the US?
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I can show you where those lunatics literally shipped people into the country illegally and where “asylum” was complete bullshite.
More moving goal posts.
The pope is harshly critical of illegal immigration/deportation matters in the US, yet reigns as Monarch of Vatican City with very tight illegal immigration/deportation laws.
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Can you show me where the pope said we should have open borders?
Typical. :lol:
Can you show me where Biden or Kamala or any other prominent Lefty has advocated for open borders? That's not their game. That's not their rhetoric.
Open borders is not the relevant test here.
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Second, the Pope isn’t a head of state speaking about border logistics like a president.
The pope is the head of the sovereign city-state Vatican city. The Vatican, just like the US, has immigration laws. Of course theirs are much more stringent and tightly administered than the US, which is where the ridiculous hypocrisy comes in.
re: Did You Know (Papal Edition)
Posted by David_DJS on 4/17/26 at 4:29 pm to Mike da Tigah
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FF to 2026, there is a new Pope named Leo, and this Pope Leo stands behind those same walls lecturing the world on their immigration policies, daring to keep invaders out of their various countries.
The Vatican in ridiculously hypocritical on illegal immigration.
re: When Utah SC ruled against redistricting, a judge was sleeping with the opposition lawyer
Posted by David_DJS on 4/17/26 at 3:14 pm to imjustafatkid
F'n Mormons have gone wild.
re: First openly gay chairman of DCs police union arrested on child abuse sex charges
Posted by David_DJS on 4/17/26 at 2:34 pm to ChineseBandit58
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looks like a fat faced Adam Schiff = figures
Was going to post the same thing. Well done -
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Is this the outrage of the day?
You support FISA?
re: Baby with 2 dads wants his mama
Posted by David_DJS on 4/16/26 at 5:25 pm to conservativewifeymom
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has no idea what mama or papa or whatever is
You're a mother?
re: Federal appeals court rejects trans athlete ban in Minnesota
Posted by David_DJS on 4/15/26 at 8:07 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Federal appeals court rejects trans athlete ban in Minnesota
Maybe it's time to have men start winning NCAA women's basketball championships and (sue if you have to) take WNBA jobs away from women. Why should high school girls be the only ones f'd over by this craziness?
re: Catholic California univ to host Pelosi as commencement speaker despite abortion stance
Posted by David_DJS on 4/13/26 at 4:00 pm to FooManChoo
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I agree with you that you aren't a practicing Catholic if you aren't regularly attending Mass, but I don't think that helps the case of the claim of unity. They are still nominal Catholics and are part of the one apostolic church according to Rome, so whether they are faithful Catholics or not, they are still included in this claim to unity.
Don't agree. A "Republican" that has voted for every Dem candidate for president the last 25 years is no longer a Republican and shouldn't be considered when defining characteristics of Republicans. He's a Democrat that hasn't gotten around to changing his party affiliation. Likewise, someone who answers the question, "are you Catholic, Protestant, Jewish or Muslim?" with, "well, I'm none of the above but was baptized Catholic 40 years ago, so I guess put my down for Catholic even though that was the last time I was in a church" - that ain't a Catholic.
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I do know anecdotally that there are at least some Catholics that disagree with the official teachings. Most of the Catholics in the Democrat party are this way.
I'm not even sure that's the case. I think there are shite loads that say something like this, "I agree abortion is a sin, but don't think we should be foisting our religious beliefs on others." I have heard, "I believe adultery is a sin but I don't support laws making it illegal, same goes for abortion" about a dozen times from Catholic libs.
re: Trump: "I did post it, and I thought it was me as a doctor, and had to do with Red Cross”
Posted by David_DJS on 4/13/26 at 2:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The right wing youth showing Boomers what "conservative" actually is? Possibly
Okay, I know this is posted more often than it should be, but on this one it's warranted. You're an idiot if you think the youth are going to show up, lurch to the Right, and stick it to boomers by cutting off social security from their grandparents/great-grandparents.
These youth?
re: Trump: "I did post it, and I thought it was me as a doctor, and had to do with Red Cross”
Posted by David_DJS on 4/13/26 at 2:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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...why?
You think the federal government is going to cut a bunch of old people off of a benefit that would put them in the soup lines? :lol:
FFS we can't stop making millionaires out of fraudsters and you think fedgov is going cut 85 yo grandma living on a fixed income off of 75% of her income?
re: Catholic California univ to host Pelosi as commencement speaker despite abortion stance
Posted by David_DJS on 4/13/26 at 2:14 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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An Edict from a Bishop to a supposed "Catholic Institution" is not just a "strongly worded letter." It would mean they are no longer a Catholic Institution.
You suggested the Bishop could shut it down. He couldn't.
He couldn't even make them change their name.
What makes them a Catholic institution today? There is no sanctioning body, accreditation body - they self-identify as a Catholic institution and it was founded by nuns. None of that can be changed by the Bishop.
re: Catholic California univ to host Pelosi as commencement speaker despite abortion stance
Posted by David_DJS on 4/13/26 at 2:11 pm to FooManChoo
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Thank you for your honesty on this matter. I hope you consider this in the future when discussing Protestants being fractured while Catholicism being united
I haven't posted about Protestants outside of asking if there were official churches that support abortion rights. I'm pretty good at not posting about things I'm unfamiliar with, and I'm not familiar with religions outside of Catholicism. In fact, I wasn't even aware of the "friction" between Catholics and Protestants (outside of Northern Ireland) until I read about it in these threads.
re: Catholic California univ to host Pelosi as commencement speaker despite abortion stance
Posted by David_DJS on 4/13/26 at 2:03 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Of course he could, or say they are no longer operating as a "Catholic Institution."
This is just basic hierarchal stuff man.
What it is is fantasy.
The Diocese could not shut the school down. :lol:
Like I said above, it could write that strongly worded letter say that while they call themselves Catholic, they're really not Catholic. That's about it.
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