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re: Girl Boss throws her baby out of window
Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:59 am to RebelExpress38
Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:59 am to RebelExpress38
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'It was an accident, she dropped the baby. How the child ended up over the windowsill remains to be determined.'
Dont hate the player hate the game, because that’s top notch lawyering.
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:45 pm to Tider13
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He did hesitate
No he did not. I think you need to re-read Genesis chapter 22. It explains because he did not hesitate, that Yahweh will bless him.
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God stopped the entire thing
In your Bible, yeah he stopped it. Unless you believe what the biblical scholars believe, in which case that part about the substitution of the ram was a later addition or redaction to the original. When the story in Genesis continues, Isaac doesn’t come down the mountain with Abraham who returns to his men and they leave.
Times of Israel: Abraham Murdered Isaac
Jewish United Fund: the Ashes of Isaac
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The rabbis teach, God declares, “Afro shel yitshak munakh l’fanai tamid – the ashes of Isaac are ever heaped before Me.” This refers to that Midrash which tells us, if the ear can bear to hear it, that on that altar, on Moriah, long ago, Isaac was reduced to ashes, and later resurrected, brought back to life.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:47 pm to olemissfan26
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take the Bible out of context
There it is again.
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justify modern child sacrifice
You have it backwards. I am 100% against child murder and abortion. The Bible, however, is pro-child killing and pro-abortion. It is you Christians justifying and rationalizing child murder, not me.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:52 pm to Squirrelmeister
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In your Bible, yeah he stopped it.
I think this is one of the definitional differences between Christians and Jews, and why you all typically support abortion.
This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:54 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:I don't know how you can deny this. You've been shown over and over again how your "interpretations" are false given the context. You either ignore it or double down, appealing to "scholars" who give their own anti-Christian, anti-orthodox conjectures. You appeal to everything but the context of the Bible and then laugh when you are called out for it.quote:There it is again.
take the Bible out of context
quote:And yet you have no rational reason for that. Sure, you might personally find those actions distasteful or offensive, but you have no objective moral standard to appeal to in order to condemn those actions. It's why your atheism makes you incapable of providing a rational foundation for condemnation of "evil", because you have no meaningful way to identify evil as evil.
You have it backwards. I am 100% against child murder and abortion
quote:Not at all. You lie yet again, and when your lies are exposed again, you will just laugh and call names and then repeat the same lies again another time. You're like a broken record.
The Bible, however, is pro-child killing and pro-abortion. It is you Christians justifying and rationalizing child murder, not me.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:07 pm to FooManChoo
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Should I support David's adultery and murder
No, but the Bible is clear that his actions were wrong on that one thing…
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because David did what was right in the eyes of the LORD and did not turn aside from anything that he commanded him all the days of his life, except in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.
Remember when David was working for the Philistine king and was raiding the countryside of Israel and Judah killing man and women and children and taking their donkeys? I remember. David did what was right in the eyes of Yahweh, so that must’ve been justified.
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Yes, he was a judge over Israel and was otherwise faithful to God in spite of his sin
And how did the Bible show that Jephthah was faithful? And where does it say that sacrificing his daughter was a sin?
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Where does the Bible "endorse" the sacrifice of Jephthah? You quoted Hebrews and the passage on the hall of faith, but Jephthah did more than sacrifice his daughter. He delivered Israel, which is why he was praised
Umm, no. Yahweh delivered Israel. It was Yahweh who gave the ammonites into Jephthah’s hand - a pre-payment to Jephthah for the promise of the upcoming human sacrifice. He was praised because of his faithfulness to Yahweh. What example does the Bible use to show Jephthah’s faithfulness to Yahweh? Are there any other examples besides his promise to sacrifice whatever comes out of his house to greet him? Help me out and show me one other thing the Bible uses to show Jephthah’s faith to Yahweh. Here’s your chance to set me straight.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:09 pm to FooManChoo
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And yet you have no rational reason for that. Sure, you might personally find those actions distasteful or offensive, but you have no objective moral standard to appeal to in order to condemn those actions
You think dog shite stinks? You have no rational basis for that. Sure you might find the smell offensive, but that’s like, just your opinion man. Someone else might love the smell of dog shite. Therefore, you cannot state that dog shite stinks because you have no standard on which to base that statement.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:15 pm to RebelExpress38
Piece of shite.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:42 pm to Lima Whiskey
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why you all typically support abortion.
I don’t know to whom you are referring. I’ve made my stance here very clear that I am against abortion and infanticide. The Bible condones and justifies abortion, but I reject that nonsense. I reject the killing of children and babies as the character of Yahweh commands throughout the Bible.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:43 pm to GoldenGuy
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Pussy is undefeated. Bet the dude is breathing a sigh of relief he got out
Dude is happy to just be breathing if that fat bitch got on top
Posted on 7/6/24 at 7:35 pm to Squirrelmeister
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he made an oath to Yahweh that whoever
Not that you care, but in his oath he says “whatever” not “whoever.”
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Which verse says that or makes that clear?
Literally the next verse when he immediately tears up his clothes because he realized what he had done.
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Could you elaborate?
Clearly you haven’t read anything if you didn’t read the next verse.
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Honestly, you sound like a low-IQ individual
I may be low IQ, but my IQ is high enough to read the entire chapter before posting pretending to know what I’m talking about. At least the next verse. May need to sit this one out and just let us criticize this woman for murdering her child.
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Then in Hebrews, we get told that he was one of the good guys in the company of Moses and the prophets and Jesus Christ.
Again you show you have no knowledge outside of the YouTube video you watched 5 minutes before posting. Wait until you learn that every single father of the faith sinned yet God used them despite their massive flaws. Wait until you hear about Paul in the New Testament. It’s almost as if everyone sins and falls short of the glory of God, even in the Old Testament.
This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:22 pm to RebelExpress38
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Not that you care, but in his oath he says “whatever” not “whoever.”
You didn’t catch earlier when I said maybe it would be a smart goat?
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Literally the next verse when he immediately tears up his clothes because he realized what he had done.
He gambled and lost. Maybe Yahweh even caused his daughter to be the first to come out. Maybe that’s the sacrifice Yahweh wanted. The Bible never once says it was wrong or it was a sin or Jephthah sinned or did evil in the sight of the LORD.
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Clearly you haven’t read anything if you didn’t read the next verse.
Sure I read the verse. In facts I’ve read all of Judges and Hebrews. Have you? Can you find any reference at all to Jephthah having sinned?
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let us criticize this woman for murdering her child.
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Again you show you have no knowledge outside of the YouTube video you watched 5 minutes before posting. Wait until you learn that every single father of the faith sinned yet God used them despite their massive flaws.
Was Ahaz in that list? What about Manasseh? Think about the list in Hebrews. They’re all “good guys”. Now think about the story of Jephthah… literally the only story in the Bible about him is in Judges and the main focus of the story is how he made a promise to Yahweh and he kept his promise thereby sacrificing his daughter. Anything else Jephthah did that was good? I’m all ears.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:32 pm to RebelExpress38
28 yr old ... Executive? At Porsche?
How is she smart enough to be an "executive" ( and either I dont think they really know what that word means or iat 28 she has a made up position in some corporate speak woke satisfying role) and think...a baby will ruin my career... But prison won't?
How is she smart enough to be an "executive" ( and either I dont think they really know what that word means or iat 28 she has a made up position in some corporate speak woke satisfying role) and think...a baby will ruin my career... But prison won't?
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:36 pm to FooManChoo
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Speaking for myself
Yes we all know why evangelicals are annoying. I just don't see why the atheist variety are especially so.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:41 pm to Tider13
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He did hesitate
No he didn't.
He couldn't wait, got up extra early to leave the following day.
You retards rightfully call out full term abortions then simp for shite like this.
You're weak.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:43 pm to RebelExpress38
Who sprayed those guts? Not me!
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:46 pm to Squirrelmeister
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I don’t know to whom you are referring. I’ve made my stance here very clear that I am against abortion and infanticide.
This is a common assumption. I sometimes discuss genocide and infanticide with Christians, and it's a guarantee that they'll attempt to call out my support for abortion as a counterpoint.
Only problem is, I don't support it.
So, we have a conversation about whether killing children is moral, and the Christian saying it is and the atheist saying it isn't.
Blows their minds. They still support child killing in the end, so long as a voice is telling them to.This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:17 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:It's also clear that sacrificing your children is an abomination (sin).
No, but the Bible is clear that his actions were wrong on that one thing…
Point being, the Bible lifts up many individuals for their general faithfulness in spite of the sins that they commit. Noah was faithful but got drunk. Lot was faithful but got drunk and slept with his daughters. Moses was faithful but disobeyed God with hitting a rock and was kept out of the Promised Land. So on and so on. The Bible is full of "good" men and women who were sinners. The people were lifted up as examples of faithfulness while their sins were either expressly or implicitly condemned. Jepthah is no different.
quote:Actually it was justified. Those nations were enemies of God devoted to destruction long before David arrived on the scene. God told Joshua a few centuries earlier that the Geshurites needed to have their land dispossessed (Josh. 13:2) and the Amalakites were to be completely wiped out by King Saul, who disobeyed God by not doing so and was punished by being removed as rightful king of Israel.
Remember when David was working for the Philistine king and was raiding the countryside of Israel and Judah killing man and women and children and taking their donkeys? I remember. David did what was right in the eyes of Yahweh, so that must’ve been justified.
quote:Judges 11. His faithfulness was shown in how he trusted that a victory would be the Lord's doing. He fought to deliver God's people out of the hands of the Ammonites. He made a vow (even if it was a bad vow) to God and he kept it because he knew how serious it was to make a vow to God. The story of Jepthah demonstrates a faithfulness to God, even if his vow was sinful.
And how did the Bible show that Jephthah was faithful?
quote:"There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering" - Deut. 18:10
And where does it say that sacrificing his daughter was a sin?
quote:Yes, God is the one who ultimately delivered Israel every time they had success against their enemies. Jepthah--like the other judges and kings to come--was the instrumental cause who fought and who God blessed.
Umm, no. Yahweh delivered Israel.
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It was Yahweh who gave the ammonites into Jephthah’s hand - a pre-payment to Jephthah for the promise of the upcoming human sacrifice.
no Again you don't understand the context. The book of judges tells of Israel's idolatry (spiritual adultery) which God responds to by sending enemies to subdue the people as a punishment, then God sends a deliverer to deliver them. The book is one long cycle of this happening. God didn't deliver the people because of a sinful sacrifice of Jepthah. Read the rest of the book. God used others for His will without their provision of a sinful sacrifice.
You want God's deliverance through Jepthah to be because of that sinful sacrifice so you can claim that God ordered or blessed human sacrifice. I've seen you claim that many times, but your wrong understanding of the Bible doesn't become right just because you repeat the same lies over and over again.
quote:See above.
He was praised because of his faithfulness to Yahweh. What example does the Bible use to show Jephthah’s faithfulness to Yahweh? Are there any other examples besides his promise to sacrifice whatever comes out of his house to greet him? Help me out and show me one other thing the Bible uses to show Jephthah’s faith to Yahweh. Here’s your chance to set me straight.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 1:47 am
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:20 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:It sounds like you would be surprised at the types of smells and tastes that some people enjoy. What you're describing is still a subjective and experiential judgement, which is all an atheist has when it comes to moral judgements. You can't appeal to consensus or majority rule, either, because history is littered with societies that have embraced what we today find abhorrent. All you have is moral relativism because you cannot point to an objective standard of morality to use as a baseline to say that theft, rape, and murder are evil. All you have is personal opinion that may or may not be shared by others.
You think dog shite stinks? You have no rational basis for that. Sure you might find the smell offensive, but that’s like, just your opinion man. Someone else might love the smell of dog shite. Therefore, you cannot state that dog shite stinks because you have no standard on which to base that statement.
So like I said, you have no rational reason for your condemnation. All you have is your opinion and preference.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:24 am to Azkiger
quote:It doesn't surprise me when an atheist borrows from the Christian worldview to condemn things like slavery, rape, or murder. My worldview is consistent with reality in this regard, where everyone "knows" that those things are objectively wrong (because we are made in the image of God with inherent value and dignity and with a conscience embedded with the moral law of God). What the atheist doesn't have is a rational basis for believing abortion is objectively wrong. The best he has is a personal preference against something that he may personally find distasteful or personally repugnant, like a child might find broccoli.
This is a common assumption. I sometimes discuss genocide and infanticide with Christians, and it's a guarantee that they'll attempt to call out my support for abortion as a counterpoint.
Only problem is, I don't support it.
So, we have a conversation about whether killing children is moral, and the Christian saying it is and the atheist saying it isn't. Blows their minds. They still support child killing in the end, so long as a voice is telling them to.
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